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05-14-2004, 11:15 AM
Very interesting snakes. Kind of weird looking too...
05-15-2004, 07:36 PM
i think it's pretty. the side's remind me of marble, and the red stripe is neat. nice snake!
05-15-2004, 09:09 PM
Reminds me of a garter snake.
05-16-2004, 08:46 AM
thanks for the comments~~~
you're definately right. In fact I think that they're really considering to change them to the sub species of garters....
I too think that they look like garters...but they eat pinkies with no problem...at least in my collection.....
05-16-2004, 08:56 AM
Will they eat fish as well?
05-16-2004, 09:08 AM
I think that they do..
If I remember correctly..they do eat fish in the wild.
But heck since I have tons of pinky mice and rats in my freezer I would rather feed them those.....plus they grow a bit faster too....
I could try feeding them fish...but just incase they get stuck to the fish...so I don't want to risk and try...
05-16-2004, 09:33 AM
Interesting. Do they get very big?
05-17-2004, 07:30 AM
their adult size only gets up to around 3 feet. So size wise they're pretty small~
05-17-2004, 10:05 AM
Not bad for size though. How's the temperament? I've found garters to be pretty squirrely, although not aggressive per se. Are these similar?
05-17-2004, 03:10 PM
Temperment wise...not too bad. I have 40 of these beauties in my collection and I have no one striking at me....so I guess its pretty good...well maybe they did but since they're so small I don't notice them biting? LOL..they're really small right now. I think the largest of these in my collection right now is around 20 inches long....the others are around hatchling corn size...some even smaller than that.....so even if they bite...I wouldn't really feel anything....at least I haven't seen them bite me...
05-17-2004, 04:35 PM
What are their housing and breeding requierments? Also do you know what their natueral range is? They are trully an interesting looking snake. It also would not suprise me if they are a sub of garters. I use to breed garters and once you can get past them musking (do they musk?) they are not all that difficult to get onto pinkies.
Word of caution I would not try giving them fish. So many feeder fish cause parasites that it simply is not worth the experment.
05-17-2004, 05:22 PM
Can you feed frozen thawed fish like you can mice? That would kill any parasites. Just curious......
05-17-2004, 05:35 PM
they are naturally from wet areas. They like being kept on moss. (Heck a lot of asian rat snakes like to be on wet land...lol..)
So these should be kept in rubbermaids with moss. Their natural range are mainly in China, but some of them can be found in Korea and Russia. I got all mine in China since its easier for me to get them.
Well I guess luck was with me cause once I got them, I tested them on pinkies and most of them took live pinkies with no problems at all. So once they were on pinkies its not that hard switching them from live to f/t. So right now most are on f/t pinkies. I handled a couple of them before and didn't notice any of them musking at me. So I guess the answer is no...they don't musk. (Well I am sure that they do..but just that mine never did..)
Oh I agree that feeding fish isn't the best thing. Except for the parasite things, a pure fish diet isn't good for their health too. Fish carries a special oil (forgot the name) which could cause the snake's liver to mal function...so that is why I don't feed pure fish unless of course they're sea snakes or pure fish eating snakes.
Well its going to hard offering f/t fish cause most of them like the movement on the fish. Thus eating it. But with dead fish floating on the water bowl.......I don't think that they'll be eating that....or at least I haven't seen a garter eat a f/t fish before...but I have limited experience with garters...
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