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magick-bears
07-26-2004, 01:29 AM
Ok here are the rest of them :crazy02:

This is RE Coco. She is a Chocolate.

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RE_Coco_1a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RE_Coco_2a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RE_Coco_Escape.jpg

This is RRC Folger. He is a Coffee Fox.

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_Folger_3a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_Folger_4a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_Folger_5a.jpg

This is RRC Arial. She is a Beige.

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_Arial-4a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_Arial-7a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_Arial-9a.jpg

This is RRC PeePee. He is a Black Tan. He got his name because every time I pick him up, well you guessed it :roflmao:

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_PeePee-3a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_PeePee-5a.jpg

http://home-marketing-center.com/Mice/RRC_PeePee-9a.jpg

Thanks for looking.

Jeff C.
The Rodent Express

cornsnake234
07-26-2004, 12:50 PM
Very very nice looking mice!!!!!!! :) very cool!! I especially love the little black tan guy!! so cute!!! I want it!!!! :crazy02:

cornsnake234
07-26-2004, 12:52 PM
One question: Can they escape by the water bottle hole?!?! :shrugs:

magick-bears
07-26-2004, 01:00 PM
One question: Can they escape by the water bottle hole?!?! :shrugs:

Only if the bottle is left out. Otherwise they can't get the bottle out. I really like using the tubs like this. I used to use lab tubs but these are so much cheaper :grin01:

Jeff C.

magick-bears
07-26-2004, 01:05 PM
Very very nice looking mice!!!!!!! :) very cool!! I especially love the little black tan guy!! so cute!!! I want it!!!! :crazy02:

Well if you ever take a trip to Southern California I normaly have some available. It is just to bad you can't ship mice as easily or as cheap as snakes. I get a kick out of people that comlain about spending $35-$45 to ship snakes. The last time I had live miced shipped to me it was $135 just for the shipping :headbang:

Jeff C.

cornsnake234
07-26-2004, 01:09 PM
The last time I had live miced shipped to me it was $135 just for the shipping :headbang:

Jeff C.

:eek1: :eek1: How much did you pay for the mice?!?

magick-bears
07-26-2004, 01:23 PM
I'm honestly not sure. I seem to recall the total was somewhere around $250 or so and I was geting like 20 or 25 mice. This was a number of years ago. From what I understand to ship them now the shipping is the same but breeders now charge an additional $10-$25 box charge and $25-$50 health certificate (now requiered to ship) fee. :cry:

Jeff C.

Amanda E
07-26-2004, 03:50 PM
So, genetics wise, what is the difference between a coffee fox and a chocolate fox? Is it some sort of dilution gene?

Also, is a chocolate tan the same thing as a chocolate fox?

I have 2 mice, one that is a self chocolate (I think) though he is kind of on the light side (maybe coffee?) and I have a chocolate with a light belly, which I was calling a chocolate tan, but if "tan" and "fox" aren't interchangeable terms then she may be a chocolate fox.

When I got the mice for my snakes I had no idea that I would get almost as interested in them as my snakes. Those mouse genetics aren't as easy as snake genetics though. :rolleyes:

cornsnake234
07-26-2004, 04:01 PM
Where did you buy those beautiful mice!?! at petshop there is only black, white and 2 colors mice!!! :shrugs:
I guess this is why i pay them only 2$ canadian!! :rolleyes:

Siva
07-26-2004, 07:51 PM
AmandaE: Tans are the tan colored belly and foxes are the white bellies...foxes are the tan gene expressed along side the chinchilla gene which makes it white instead of tan...foxes can produce tans when bred to self mice b/c tan is a codominant gene but since the chinchilla gene is recessive you will not get foxes from that pairing unless you breed the babies back to the fox parent the you will get foxes, tans, and selfs


magick-bears-i love PeePee! I would love to add him to my black tan group his tan is superb!

magick-bears
07-26-2004, 09:22 PM
Hi Amanda,

I was not meaning to turn this into a genetics thread but here is the simple version. Feel free to e-mail me if you want more in depth.

Chocolates are dilute Blacks. Black are aa/BB or B*/C*/D*/P* where as Chocolates are aa/bb/C*/D*/P*

Coffee is caused by the C gene. It is any color in conjunction with the extreme dilution gene c^e. So a Coffee can be aa/B*/c^e-c^e/D*/P* or aa/bb/c^e-c^e/D*/P* or aa/B*/c^e-c^e/dd/P* or even aa/bb/c^e-c^e/dd/P*. These will all produce Coffee or a lighter version called Beige, See RRC Arial above. Beige and Coffee are genetically the same just with different modifiers.

Also with the Fox Tan issue, Amy is dead on the money. Except, in the case of the Coffee/Beige Fox. These do not have the Chinchilla gene. The extreme dilution gene (c^e) eliminates all yellow pigment (like the chin gene). So they have a pure white belly.

Jeff C.

magick-bears
07-26-2004, 09:32 PM
magick-bears-i love PeePee! I would love to add him to my black tan group his tan is superb!


Thanks Amanda. Trueth be told, though, his Tan is actualy washed out considerably. This is because he is Cc^e and the c^e gene dilutes the yellow (what cause the red coloration) pigment even in the hetrozygus form. I used to have some really nice Tans. Just need to build back up to them. Here is a Pic of what a good Black Tan looks like.

Jeff C.

brownie55
07-27-2004, 08:41 AM
Here is a Pic of what a good Black Tan looks like.

Hmmm, if that were a dog I'd say he looks like a Dober-mouse pinscher....

cornsnake234
08-22-2004, 04:22 PM
I won't need to drive to california to get one of those beautiful black tan mouse... the breeding between my black male and my bicolore female gave me one nice little black tan and also a lilac tan, but i don't have a pic of her for the moment.

Here is the little black tan with his sister and brothers and also his mother.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/cornsnake234/BlackTan.jpg