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1 Big - 1 Small 33 Gallon

NFCorn
08-22-2004, 11:46 AM
I had my CornSnake ("Jake the Snake") now for about 3 Months and he is about 2 1/2 feet and sheed 2 times. He Lives in a 33 Gallon tank.

I Just got another Corn two days ago for my son BUT it is only a month old (tiny).

My question is:

Can I put the two snakes in together with that size difference?

Would a 33 Gallon Tank be ok for two full grown snakes?

How would I heat a RubberMaid Container?

Could I use a Heater that sticks at the outer bottom?

Could that start a fire?

I was told that "Jake the Snake" is a normal Corn but the new one (No Name Yet) was a Okeetee Corn...Is there a difference?

Sorry for all the questions...But I need the info.

I love this site!

Thanks.

JG89
08-22-2004, 11:48 AM
There is a difference between an oketee and a normal corn... I dont know much about corn snakes but ive been looking at all the different patterns of corns.... An oketee has dark black bands between its colors if you googled corn snake colorations and patterns youd see the difference.

BiLL1024
08-22-2004, 01:35 PM
Hi Nfcorn
I would not keep 2 corns in the same container at any size .There is a big debate over this subject , and if you do a search on it , read the posts you can make up your own mind.
I use sterilite containers 90 quart size . I use an under tank heater stuck on a 12 x 12 inch floor tile that is duct taped to the bottom of the tank .I used a couple ripped pieces of 2x4 to keep the tile and heater &tank off the table top. I would not put the heater directly on the plastic container. Don't forget to drill holes in it for air!!!!
An okeetee is basically normal corn with dark black borders .

NFCorn
08-22-2004, 01:46 PM
Thanks ... BiLL1024

That info is very helpful
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Inside or outside? " is duct taped to the bottom of the tank"

SNIP
"I use an under tank heater stuck on a 12 x 12 inch floor tile that is duct taped to the bottom of the tank"

BiLL1024
08-22-2004, 01:58 PM
Outside the tank .The heater is on the bottom then the tile then the tank working your way up.
I use the wood across the bottom to keep it off the ground 1 inch or so (.Tank and all) Ceramic tile that is too.

Flygning
08-22-2004, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't keep the heater on the bottom of the container. Even with it not touching the tank, it can still fry a snake unless it has one of those things that controls how hot it is. Even then, it can still be too hot. I would put it on one end, still keeping it from touching the tank somehow. That is what I do with my snake's sterilite container, and there is a nice heat gradient and he can't sit on the heater and cook himself.

BiLL1024
08-22-2004, 02:08 PM
I do use a rheostat inline with the heater and as with any undertank heater (on glass or plastic) you are right they can get too warm ; a thermostat or rheostat should be used . Thanks for bringing that up .

Flygning
08-22-2004, 02:53 PM
I read back over my last post, and by "one end" I meant on the side of the tank. Just clearing that up :)

BiLL1024
08-23-2004, 07:37 PM
I have UTTH on one side of the tank on the bottom with a temp control (rheostat) , we are not looking for air temps but floor/substrate temps since that is where the snakes are. The snakes will not cook with a Tstat or rheastat.
The floor temps are 83F on the warm side and 73 on the cool side in my tanks. And I see my snakes on one side or the other as they see fit ; they will self regulate. Whatever you use just make sure to keep an eye on the temps and use a good thermometer.
Good luck
Bill