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What Is It? (Warning! Lots of pics!)

What Kind of Snake is This?

  • Corn Snake

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Milk Snake

    Votes: 18 75.0%
  • Rat Snake

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Total voters
    24

CornCrazy

What's one more???
OK...this is a wild caught specimen. It has me baffled and I feel like an idiot about having to ask this...but WHAT KIND OF SNAKE IS IT? It looks like a corn, but there's something not quite right about it. It doesn't really look like my Eastern milk snake, either. Any suggestions?

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Head Shot:
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Belly Shot:
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As you can see, he has some skin issues. He is also in blue phase right now. I will post new pics after he sheds.
 
Hmmm...now that I posted pics of the other one...I think they DO look alike! I vote for Eastern Milk Snake!
 
Yep, I'd definitely agree with you Terri, looks like another Eastern Milk snake. So, hopefully it is the opposite sex of the one you already have. :)
 
gardenmum said:
Yep, I'd definitely agree with you Terri, looks like another Eastern Milk snake. So, hopefully it is the opposite sex of the one you already have. :)
You know what that means ;) LOL
 
Yep, sure do....lol. And from looking at the pics, the second one (one in blue) looks like a boy and the first one you got....well, the tail isn't the best shot, but looks like it could be a girl. Hope that is right!! Awww, could be little pints of milk running around later. :grin01:
 
The first one I got (2nd set of pics) is actually a boy. I'm not gonna sex the newest one until after it sheds and is looking better. I'll let you know, though, what it is as soon as I find out!
 
Awwww....well, I was hoping to guess them right, not that it was easy with the type of shots but I AM trying to make them one of each.....lol. I hope the new one is a girl then. HERE'S HOPING!!!
 
theres no snake arround in this area, so i have no clue how you could capture one in the wilderness, dare to enlight me, for general culture
 
ummm...you see it, recognize that it's not venomous, then pick it up :D

It was just luck finding this little one. It had to have been under my mom's house. I believe the exterminator forced it from its hiding place.
 
Weird Donkey said:
theres no snake arround in this area, so i have no clue how you could capture one in the wilderness, dare to enlight me, for general culture
Terri is in Tennessee, which is well within the range of the eastern milk snake, so it shouldn't be that hard to understand :shrugs:
 
mbdorfer said:
Terri is in Tennessee, which is well within the range of the eastern milk snake, so it shouldn't be that hard to understand :shrugs:

lol, misunderstanding here, i meant im not in an area where theres snake, could you tell me how you capture ur snake since i never heard of such practice
 
I voted Eastern

I have found some Eastern Milks and they both had the same coloring and pattern as the one pictured-except it seems to lack a defined Y pattern on the head.
 
Cindy said:
May I ask? if your not sure of the breed, how do you know it isn't dangerous?
I know what venomous breeds are in my area, so I can recognize those. This was NOT one of them, therefore I knew it was harmless. Also, I could tell from general things like its pupils are round and its head is tapered instead of triangular.
 
Hey Terri

nice looking little snake. That is a great find.
I have never seen any eastern milks here but I did catch a mole snake once. That was pretty exciting. I'm used to kings, rats, water snakes, garter snakes, ringnecks and worm snakes.
I brought him home, got some pictures, received identification help on the forums and let him go.
Since I wasn't ready to expand into mole snakes I had no reason to keep him.
It was hard to release him though. He was cute little thing.
Has your excellent little find eaten?

To weird donky and cindy
when actually searching for snakes we just go out in feilds, woods, and other potential snake harboring areas and turn over rocks, logs and debris. Also driving the backroads after dark can yeild results.
if we see a snake and recognise what it is we know how to aproach it. If we are not sure of the exact species there are characteristics we can look for to determine venomous or not.
round pupils non venomous
slit pupils venomous
shape of head, venomous will appear to have a larger more triangular shaped head. Less reliable because some species will try to mimic this and the coral snake doesn't exhibit this feature. not really a problem because coral snakes aren't in our specific ranges.
venomous snakes are usually much thicker bodied, for their length, then non venomous. can be kind of hard to tell with younger specimens.
venomous snakes have small head scales and many of them. non venomous have large head scales and only around six I believe.
But the easiest way is by knowing the venomous species in our area.
All you have do is learn how to identify the venomous species in your area. Which is pretty easy when you consider of the four possibilities Terri might have two in her area, rattle snake and copperhead .
In my area there are three, the rattle snake, copperhead and the occaisional water moccasin. Coral snakes do not expand into our areas and although maps suggest that moccasins do not get as far north as my area, I can personally guarantee they do....lol
 
Jimmy,

I have not offered food to the little one, yet. It is getting ready to shed so I figured I'd wait until after that. It's skin is in pretty bad shape, so I hope it doesn't need antibiotics or anything. After it sheds, I will be able to tell more. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will eat F/T, but if not, I have live mice to offer to it.

The main 2 venomous snakes here are the rattlesnake and the copperhead (as Jimmy pointed out). I also have heard of Water Moccasins (Cottonmouths) being seen in this area. Fortunately, they are not very common here, though.
 
I love this hobby

I never knew that the eye shape is (for the most part) indicative for being Venomous, thats the great thing about this hobby, you learn something new everyday! Thanks guys :)
 
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