Rock and Roll Pair of Snakes~~~~~~:~

Any tips or ideas, shares would be greatly appreciated. This happen once with Cornelius and I didn't think too much about it, I thought that maybe he was just getting his crawler down. BUT the other day I feed him/her and also feed Sauron and then put them back into their home and they both started doing this sort of shaking, wiggling, pulsing type of behavior. My worry is that it may be that I have to separate them. They are both 01 but I don't know if they are girls boys or both. I was hoping to be able to keep them together one more year but I don't want any aggessive behaviors. Could this behavior be a pre to some more aggessive behavior or is it something totally different. Maybe they both just wnted more food? I kept them apart for a few days after they ate they are back together now and snuggling up just like normal. Thanks in advance. Sam ~~~~~~~:

I don't know if I'm talking about the same thing, but...
A while ago, after about a month of 2 sibling hatchlings being housed separately, I put them in one temporary container (for all of 2 minutes) while I cleaned out their homes. Well, I noticed when they touched each other, the male immediately began to twitch. He moved in these jerky, twitchy movements. I think it stopped eventually.
I might have read somewhere that this is what corns do when they meet each otehr. Or I might just be imagining that I read it.

I don't really know what the real problem is...because I personally have never......kept two snakes together in one enclosure before...(well maybe for a day or two because I was so busy cleaning up tanks and cages that I didn't have enough of them.....so had to put them together for a day or two....but that was it......and that was like years ago...

I would definately separate them.
Remember.....breeding them too soon could cause a lot of health problems to the female.....so it's just better to separate them espeically if you don't know their sex.....

Oh, don't worry, these are definitely too small to breed. They're each like a foot long.
I house them separately, but it was just that day when I was cleaning out their separate containers that I put them in the same box for one or two minutes. One is a male, the other is a female.

there's a rumbly in my tumbly

could it be some sort of swallowing motion? I just got my two girls, and after I feed them they sit there with their little bellies moving the food down their bodies. They could just be wiggling because their so happy to have full tummies and nice warm homes, and kind loving moms and dads *sigh*... I don't want to personify them too much, but hey it could happen

Seem Happy now~~~~~~~~:~

No, Missy it's not that kind of wiggle, it looks more like a body seizure with lots of twitching. Is was right after they ate and it was weird to me because they both were doing it, like it WAS some kind of snake thing. I did separate them but after three days put them back together and things are back to normal. To me they are still babies but the truth is I will have to rearrange their homes and keep them apart pretty soon. I was mostly wondering if the movement was aggressive or not, because if not I'm thinking I can wait until December to separate them. These are Spencer's guys and he loves his set up in his room the way it is, ah, such is life, change is not always welcome. ~~~~~~~~:~ Sam

Sounds like breeding behavior to me!!!

My corns bred this year. They ALL did a weird little twitching thing. It is part of their breeding ritual...foreplay if want to call it that. If you don't want them to breed too early, then I would separate them into their own enclosures. I wouldn't put them back together until the female is large enough to breed. Then I would only put them together for a few weeks during breeding season. I hope they haven't alrady bred. You run the risk of the female becoming eggbound if she is too small. By the way, how big are they and how old are they?

Good luck!

I had this too, and they're definitely winding up for an attempt at breeding, I think!

We allowed our two to continue the twitching, with a hand poised to separate them, because we wanted to see if it was agressive, but it was definitely 'adolescent' behaviour - when we lifted the male off, his hemipenes were at the ready!!! We felt really guilty at cheating him of his fun.

At this time they lived together, and advice from this forum was that the female should weigh at least 300grammes before being allowed to breed, and she only weighed 200g, so separate houses it was. They seem more than happy, but whenever they are out together, they start again within about 30 seconds. When we do decide to breed them, I don't think we'll have any problem!

So the only decision you have to make is... are your snakeys (and you) ready for babies???

Best of luck,
Brig.

AHHHHHHH Never thought of sex! ~~~~~~~:~

I was so worried about the aggressive behavior I didn't even think about the sex. They are both o1s and kinda of small compared to others I have seen, long but not a lot of heft to them. I think of them as babies. I guess it's time for a vet visit to see what sex they are and to get them into new homes. Thanks guys. ~~~~~~~~~:~ Sam

Guess I'll have to share my experience with the twitching....I don't think it's a foreplay/pre-breeding behavior although it apparently happens then also.
When I had my two Corns in the same tank (they are separated now) sometimes feeding time would'nt end up an "even meal". When it got to the last one mouse (dead by now) the would do this wrigling/dance type thing. They were playing a "chess-type" game. Like I said they are separated for good now so I don't really want to hear all that again, please.
I think it's a test of dominance, a competition of a sort...to get in the best posistion or stance. My Corn's may both be the same sex, so maybe that's why many times it appeared to be a draw. That or its just what Corn's do when they are confused and they try to work it out.
It could also be a heightened state of awareness. Senses including smell and skin/feel are in turbo overdrive.

Just my opinion. Thanks for all the excellent info on this board!!

Makes Sense ~~~~~~~~~~:~

Danz...What you say makes sense, even if sex is involved. We have separated the two babes, sad but it has to be. Cornelius is doing circles but Sauron seems to be "cool" about the whole thing. Maybe Cornelius is still looking for more food. Or missing her/his buddy. The behavior did happen after they ate, though they don't eat together, they were being put together after they ate. Thanks for all your help guys! The two tanks look nice together and Spencer is happy. Sam ~~~~~~~~:~