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Noob w/Boobs wont eat in viv

ultimuttone

Murphy is my Sancho :/
Now that I have your attention :grin01: :sidestep:

Does anyone know how I can get rid of roaches and silverfish without harming my snakes?


Sorry about the title, but if you mention any of those things you seem to at least get views, and some replies-while the original title got me nothing...
 
Thats the problem, the complex was fumigated and they are not all gone!!! I just want to be able to spray, using a non aerosol, and know that I won't kill my snakes along with everything else. The only thing I could find on the search was something called Black Knight which is apparently no longer available. So I would like to know what I can use.
It is a very legitimate question. I only ask questions about things I cannot find answers to myself, but it seems that you have to ask the same old questions to get anyone to give you an honest reply. It's very frustrating to need information, go to the best source you can find on a subject, and still not get anywhere near an answer.
If I can't get the answer here, where do I go?
 
Also, having 23 animals and being in AZ where the temps are still less than comfortable outside, means moving everyone out to fumigate repeatedly is a huge project.
 
Not sure about the silverfish, but with roaches it is much like fleas... you have to disrupt their life cycle. Buy cans of 'birth control' roach spray, lock your snakes up in the bedroom, open everything to air the place out, turn on fans, etc. if you're worried, and then spray the roach spray where they are most likely to be: behind refrigerator, under cabinets, etc. Wait a few hours and it should be fine. Naturally this won't IMMEDIATELY clear the problem, just like with fleas, but they will become sterile and not reproduce. You'd still need traps or something for immediate results, I think.

The sad realiity of it all, however, is that even if YOU do all this you most likely won't ever be entirely rid of the problem. Your neighbours would have to do the same thing since you are so close to them, being in an apartment. I sympathise though, roaches are one creature that absolutely disgust me to no end. I would be Not Happy to find them in my home. Do what you can to minimise them, but until you move (or the complex itself starts using some sort of 'birth control' spray), it's probably not going to go away for good. I know, just what you wanted to hear, right? :) Good luck either way.
 
I certainly can't speak for all of the forum, but I personally didn't answer all of your other threads because I don't know the answer. Plain and simple.

A quick google turned up this page: http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page224.html with Niban FG labeled for roaches and silverfish and supposedly safe to use around children and pets.

Shrug, don't know what to tell you otherwise. I don't know anything on the topic. I'd suggest contacting an exterminator company and ask them questions on products that are safe around pets and/or proper procedures to use to keep your pets safe while treating.
 
Sorry, didnt know that the place was fumigated. I admit that my reply was a bit snarky. But I was being silly because the title of the thread was silly.

I've personally never dealt with roaches. We've had fleas though so i know how much of a pain it is.
 
Thank you for your replies

Wilder said:
The sad realiity of it all, however, is that even if YOU do all this you most likely won't ever be entirely rid of the problem. Your neighbours would have to do the same thing since you are so close to them, being in an apartment.

That is why I am trying to find something that I can use repeatedly/or on an on going basis. Unfortunately for the time being I am stuck here and just have to do the best I can with my space.

Hurley said:
I certainly can't speak for all of the forum, but I personally didn't answer all of your other threads because I don't know the answer. Plain and simple.

I do understand this, I read just about every new post and don't answer pretty much most because either I don't know or figure their are alot of you that can answer it much more eloquently. It just seems hard to get anyone to even look or make a suggestion sometimes and it is frustrating. I apologise if I came off bi*chy. Thank you for the link, although part of the problem has been I know what is ok for the rest of my pets, but even the exterminating company couldn't really tell me what would be safe for the snakes.They said people usually want to kill them

Prieta said:
Sorry, didnt know that the place was fumigated. I admit that my reply was a bit snarky. But I was being silly because the title of the thread was silly.

As I said before, I apologize if I came off badly. I really love my little guys and want to make sure I do the right thing.

I am going to try and find some of the growth regulators and keep using the baits and squishing the little buggers I guess. :shrugs:
 
I've never dealt with silverfish, but living in an old house in an old neighborhood I have dealt with both kinds of roaches. I found roach hotels (boxes with attractant & sticky on the inside) near potential entry points to be safe and surprisingly effective.
 
The only thing I've ever found to be effective on roaches is borax powder. You can usually find it in the section with the other bug products. It should be safe for your snakes as long as they don't come into contact with it. It works because the roaches carry on their feet back to the nest, killing the nest.
 
Thanks to those of you who replied and made suggestions. It appears I am doing just about everything I can do(roach baits/motels, boric acid)and may have to just deal with my pests for now and hope the GRI works and doesn't harm my lil ones. :shrugs:

The stupid title did get me more feedback than the other one...sad :rolleyes:
 
ultimuttone said:
The stupid title did get me more feedback than the other one...sad :rolleyes:

I'm not usually the one to say this, but a more "mature" title might have gotten more experienced answers. :shrugs:
 
IJTGoff69 said:
'm not usually the one to say this, but a more "mature" title might have gotten more experienced answers.

Actually I asked the question originally titled "spray pesticides". Exactly what I was asking about and I got lets see 20 views and the only reply was me asking someone to please help with this. My whole point in titling it this way was that it is immature, but unfortunately it seems the only way to get anyones attention. I don't agree with that mentality, but I needed feedback on my question because I don't want to inadvertently kill my snakes.
 
ultimuttone said:
Actually I asked the question originally titled "spray pesticides". Exactly what I was asking about and I got lets see 20 views and the only reply was me asking someone to please help with this. My whole point in titling it this way was that it is immature, but unfortunately it seems the only way to get anyones attention. I don't agree with that mentality, but I needed feedback on my question because I don't want to inadvertently kill my snakes.

Sometimes patience works wonders
 
ultimuttone said:
Actually I asked the question originally titled "spray pesticides". Exactly what I was asking about and I got lets see 20 views and the only reply was me asking someone to please help with this. My whole point in titling it this way was that it is immature, but unfortunately it seems the only way to get anyones attention. I don't agree with that mentality, but I needed feedback on my question because I don't want to inadvertently kill my snakes.

Sad as it is .... I fear you're right.

I don't recall your first (seriously titled) thread on this at all but I've just read right through this one. :rolleyes:

Never had cockroaches/silverfish though so can't help you out I'm afraid. Had carpet mites once but we moved house before we got round to doing anything about them .... and they're totally harmless any (except for the carpet).
 
Well, I did see all of your other threads. As mentioned before, I didn't respond because I didn't have an answer for you. It wasn't until your:

"Now that I have your attention

Does anyone know how I can get rid of roaches and silverfish without harming my snakes?


Sorry about the title, but if you mention any of those things you seem to at least get views, and some replies-while the original title got me nothing..."


Implying that it takes the words boob and noob for me to read a thread (which I find quite offensive, btw) that led to me posting here with no good information in the first place. Why did I read the thread? Because the title made absolutely no sense. Why I responded I'm even beginning to wonder because my normal response to someone stomping their feet is to ignore them. (Not to mention the "made you look" tone to the thread followed up by the "see? told ya told ya" encore.) I will have to be more selective of threads to post in in the future, I guess.

"My whole point in titling it this way was that it is immature, but unfortunately it seems the only way to get anyones attention. I don't agree with that mentality, but I needed feedback on my question because I don't want to inadvertently kill my snakes."

I read your threads before. I had no real first hand info to give, so I didn't. Heh, I answered this thread (against my best judgement in rewarding the foot stomping behavior) with what little help I could find googling it in response to the plea for help. I knew better, and I shake my head at myself for deciding to post despite it. It won't happen again.
 
One solution that will work, not immediately though. Get say a dozen adult chameleons and let them loose. I'm guessing the roaches and silverfish will bugger off quicker than a cat in a dog yard. Worst case you will have some pretty house mates. :sidestep:

(like I have a clue, I can't even find the boobs) :shrugs: :crazy02:
 
colinmcc said:
Sad as it is .... I fear you're right.

I don't recall your first (seriously titled) thread on this at all but I've just read right through this one. :rolleyes:


I want to aplologize to anyone who was offended by this thread/title.
It was a weak attempt, by a frustrated person, to prove the above point and get the answer to my question.
I am sorry if it seemed to turn into a foot stomping show, that was not my intention. And it will not happen again. Thanks.
 
Borax (laundry aisle) mixed in equal amounts with powdered sugar and sprinkled around where the roaches congregate is the best thing I have tried thus far. The roaches are attracted to and eat the sugar coated borax and die as a result. But make sure its in an area where you don't have a dog or cat to lick. Behind fridge, in cupboards, on the counter behind a tv, etc. This same techinique works quite well against those seasonal ant infestations, as well.

As for silverfish, which I have never seen, let alone be infested with are listed on my bag of diatomaceous earth of critters it kills. It's the remnants of ancient microscopic sea critters, and their shells are glass-like and slice open a small insect and they die. It works great for mites, fleas, sow bugs, ants, and other small bodied insects. Its not a chemical and poses absolutely no danger to humans or pets. I have used it with great success in chicken houses by dusting the chickens with it and sprinkling it around the floor of the house and in their dust bath areas. Apply it the same way as the sugared borax.


On a side note, this is the second thread, that I can recall, of you throwing a minor temper-tantrum because people don't answer your questions promptly. Most people probably have no experience on the matter. And some, like Hurley, don't like rewarding childish behaviour. And some like myself, check the forum sporadically. I just now got dinner put away, the kitchen cleaned up, laundry done, chickens put to bed, lawn mowed, and just now sat down to read more posts and reply. I, for one, do not click on the "New Posts" button. I read throughout the day and answer when I have the time or if I have any insight on the question asked.

A little patience goes a long way in my experience. Answers will come when they come. =)

The roaches and silverfish are non-threatening to your snakes, just an annoyance. Black Knight is still available locally for me, although I have never tried it, as I've never had any infestation worthy of a mass-extermination spray. Plus I don't like using chemicals if I don't absolutely have to, so I usually go the more naturalistic and less poisonous routes like I described to you above.
 
Thank you for all of the suggestions, it has given me some good safe things to try.

Once again, my apologies. Apparently my people skills are even more lacking than I realized. I spend most of my time with animals, thats my job,and human interaction is mostly with clients-where I am the authority on matters of discussion, and my kids-where I am the authority in general. I know I can be impatient, but I certainly did not intend to embarrass myself by coming off rudely or childish.Perhaps I should stick to just reading from now on. I appreciate everyone's help and lessons learned. Thank you.
 
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