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Problems understanding tanksizes

J

Jonkol

New member
Hi everybody!

This seems to be a very nice and helpful forum.

I'm from Sweden in Europe and have looked at all posts about tank size, and I don't follow them very good. What are the dimensions of a 20 Gallon Long tank that everybody seems to be talking about? Everybody here seems to be aware of what it means... :) I don't...

My situation is that I have a very nice old terrarium built in into a wall. I have had chameleons in it, but it now has been empty for some years, and my children wants a cornsnake to move in. I realized floor area is important and I'm afraid my tank is to small even though the volume is big (It is very high and the floor area is not very big)

So my measurements are
Bottom 75*45 centimeters (or 18*29 inches)
Height 85 centimeters (or 33 inches)
Total Volume: 272 liters (or 50 US gallons)

Is this enough for a adult snake to have a good life?
Is it good enough for two? Or cant you mix them? (I haven't studied this species yet. Will start if my tank is enough and then I will have many more questions :))

Thanks from Stockholm!

/Jonas
 
Not sure on mesurments.. not too hot myself with this, but some corns can grow to over 5ft, so it does seem quite small.. mine dont really climb that much, only when I have them out & they are exploring!

As for housing 2 together, its not really reccomended, I used to untill I had a few probs occour..

Im sure there are many experts that can answer you better !

hope i helped a little. :cheers:
 
Plums said:
Not sure on mesurments.. not too hot myself with this, but some corns can grow to over 5ft, so it does seem quite small.. mine dont really climb that much, only when I have them out & they are exploring!

As for housing 2 together, its not really reccomended, I used to untill I had a few probs occour..

Im sure there are many experts that can answer you better !

hope i helped a little. :cheers:
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My 2 viv's i have currently are both 4ft long, 1 of my snakes is about 41/2 ft & they other is reaching 6ft !

good luck
 
You could keep a baby in this tank, and move him up to a bigger tank as he grows.
I have my 7 month old in a tank size 30X12X12" - roughly 2 and a 1/2 foot long.
 
So no cornsnake for me?

Thanks for all your quick answers!

I don't want to have a bigger tank. This is the one and only I will have at home.
So if I cant have an adult in this, I have to think about something else to have in this tank.

I just saw in another post that the complete way around should be 1,5 time the snake length. This is probably not true then as that would allow me to have a 5 foot snake???

To sad... Cornsnakes seemed like a nice thing to have.

Any snake recommendations for a tank my size?
You must know a lot about different types of snakes here I expect :)

Thanks again for your quick replies!

/Jonas
 
I'm not 100% sure, but I would think you could keep a Rubber Boa or a Rosy Boa in a tank that size. :shrugs:
 
Jonkol said:
So my measurements are
Bottom 75*45 centimeters (or 18*29 inches)
Height 85 centimeters (or 33 inches)
Total Volume: 272 liters (or 50 US gallons)
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Perhaps I'm misreading, but those dimensions seem just fine. A 20 gal L tank has a floor thats 12x30 inches (30.5x76 cm). So it seems like your tank with a floor space of 18x29 inches should work just fine. They say the minimum size for an adult corn is a 20 gal L. That gives a snake 360 sq in. of space to roam. Your tank would give a corn 522 sq in. of floor space. I think you would be just fine keeping a corn snake in the tank you have now. It certainly surpasses the minimum requirement. Sure, it may be a bit high, but that shouldn't be a problem. The snake can climb a little if it wants to. Anyway, I hop I did my math right ;) In my opinion, your tank will work fine. Maybe someone can back me... Good luck.
 
Yea that tank size sounds just right...I have one of my adults in a tank that large and it is more than enough room. I am about to receive an sweater box rack, for adult corns, and the dimensions are 17x24 = 408...and they are only six inches high...more than enough room.
 
Billybobob said:
nebby3103 is right your viv should be fine for an adult corn.

Plissken you should not post if you don't know what you are talking about. I refere you to this thread:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=285625#post285625

This is not an attack on you just something you might want to think about.
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I am confused; what did I say that was bad advice? :shrugs:
I suggested that Jonkol, if she bought a cornsnake and chose to keep it in this tank, might like to move it up to a bigger size as it gets older.
Then I suggested some snakes she may be able to keep in this tank. Sure, I said I wasn't 100% sure, but it was only intended for Jonkol as somewhere for her to start her research. Someone new to snakes probably wouldn't know many of the various types, and would have no idea where to start looking. Perhaps I misworded by rosy boa post somewhat; what I meant was that I was fairly sure you could keep one of these snakes in a small tank, but she should have this confirmed because I was not 100% positive. I didn't just randomly pick some spiecies. :)
I don't understand what I said that you deemed innappropriate.
 
Plissken said:
You could keep a baby in this tank, and move him up to a bigger tank as he grows.
I have my 7 month old in a tank size 30X12X12" - roughly 2 and a 1/2 foot long.
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This quote pretty much says that his tank is not big enough to house an adult Corn Snake which is completely false. Plus you are constantly giving out wrong or missleading advice. While in this theread you did not give incredibly bad advice, it was the straw that broke the camels back for me and I could not go on with out saying something about it.
 
Billybobob said:
This quote pretty much says that his tank is not big enough to house an adult Corn Snake which is completely false. Plus you are constantly giving out wrong or missleading advice. While in this theread you did not give incredibly bad advice, it was the straw that broke the camels back for me and I could not go on with out saying something about it.
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In my opinion, this is NOT big enough for an adult corn snake. Maybe you would feel comfortable housing an adult in here, but I personally would not. I give advice based on MY experiences, not YOURS.
And excuse me? I am not "constantly" giving out wrong or missleading advice. I would not give advice if I had no clue on the subject. One would have to wonder why you are taking so much notice of my posts anyway.
Oh and in future if you really have a grievance with me perhaps you could be good enough to send me a PM. This thread is not the place for you picking at my honest attempts to help out new snake owners. I may only have one snake but I have worked with snakes for some time now. Don't assume you know better than me just because you own more snakes. :shrugs:
 
hey there!my query is basicly the same although i am looking into buying a larger viv for my roughly 5 " adult okeetee.what size is recommended dya rekon?ive been loking at 50" by 18 and 18.any ideas?
 
Plissken said:
In my opinion, this is NOT big enough for an adult corn snake. Maybe you would feel comfortable housing an adult in here, but I personally would not.
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Every care sheet, book, and breeder I have ever checked with has said that a 20gal long viv is perfect for a adult corn. The viv in this thread actualy gives 150+ square inches more floor space than a 20 gal long. If this is to small For an adult what would you recomend. :rolleyes:

Plissken said:
I give advice based on MY experiences, not YOURS.
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I would hope so, cause if I had given that advice, I would slap myself around because that advice was so stupid. :bang:


Plissken said:
I would not give advice if I had no clue on the subject.
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I refer you to this post from this thread:

Plissken said:
Then I suggested some snakes she may be able to keep in this tank. Sure, I said I wasn't 100% sure, but it was only intended for Jonkol as somewhere for her to start her research. Someone new to snakes probably wouldn't know many of the various types, and would have no idea where to start looking. Perhaps I misworded by rosy boa post somewhat; what I meant was that I was fairly sure you could keep one of these snakes in a small tank, but she should have this confirmed because I was not 100% positive. I didn't just randomly pick some spiecies.
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If you don't know for sure why suggest?

Plissken said:
One would have to wonder why you are taking so much notice of my posts anyway.
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I notice any post giving bad information. :puke01: :wavey:
 
Billybobob said:
Every care sheet, book, and breeder I have ever checked with has said that a 20gal long viv is perfect for a adult corn. The viv in this thread actualy gives 150+ square inches more floor space than a 20 gal long. If this is to small For an adult what would you recomend. :rolleyes:
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20 gal long is the recommended MINIMUM size. I personally would feel most comfortable housing an adult in a 4-foot viv. Maybe you think this is excessive but I try to provide the very best for my animals, and I have a duty to do so. My animals don't get the MINIMUM requirements.

Billybobob said:
I would hope so, cause if I had given that advice, I would slap myself around because that advice was so stupid.
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Yeah, in your opinion. Something such as the best size tank for a corn is personal preference. By all means express your opinion but do not tell me I am wrong because I like to provide large tanks for my snakes. Open your mind this much?!

Billybobob said:
If you don't know for sure why suggest?
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Um, maybe to be helpful? What else can I do but suggest some species this member could keep? It's up to her what she buys, I was merely pointing her in the right direction.
 
Hi Jonas,

A few months ago I had the same question as you and got some really good info and links.
Here is the link to the thread *click here*

Have fun

Vanina
 
jenkva said:
Hi Jonas,

A few months ago I had the same question as you and got some really good info and links.
Here is the link to the thread *click here*

Have fun

Vanina
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Oh...........................
..................................Is this what this thread is about!..........

:wavey:
Good link
 
Lennycorn said:
Oh...........................
..................................Is this what this thread is about!..........

:wavey:
Good link
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herm herm, did I miss something?
Lennycorn, how much of the beer which you suggested mbdorfer to put his bleeding finger have you had? :roflmao:
 
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