Gaia the giantess

I can't believe this snake has laid 2 clutches of eggs this year, she doesn't look it. Picked her up at the WCCBE show yesterday. Here she is weighing in at a hefty 546 grams. Even standing on a chair I couldn't get the entire snake framed in one shot when she was stretched out.

Congrats, Jen. She's big, but not fat, and she looks great.

She is a beauty, I guess I didn't see her she must have been hidden by the male.

She looks like she couldn't believe the scale either Nice thick borders on her too :cheers:

susang said:

She is a beauty, I guess I didn't see her she must have been hidden by the male.

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That male would have hidden the sun if it was in there with him. He was humongous!

CaptBogart said:

She looks like she couldn't believe the scale either Nice thick borders on her too :cheers:

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yeah it was funny she had her head peeking over the edge -I have another cute pic of that. I don't even look when it's me lol
I just love the borders, I think it's pretty safe to call this girl an Okeetee

shed'n my skin said:

That male would have hidden the sun if it was in there with him. He was humongous!

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ROFL :roflmao:

shed'n my skin said:

yeah it was funny she had her head peeking over the edge -I have another cute pic of that. I don't even look when it's me lol
I just love the borders, I think it's pretty safe to call this girl an Okeetee

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Thick borders don't necessary indicate its an okeetee. For one the colours are not as vibrant as your typical okee...

I would call it normal? Big normal

Nice looking snake Jen! And nice touch with the Fear of the Dark CD :cheers:

Normal or Okeetee?

What do you all think? Here's another pic

I would like everyone else's opinions on this. Maybe she's not the most vibrant snake but lots of orange, nice thick borders, and real big. The seller was calling her an Okeetee but I didn't really find out much about the parents etc.

Mike -Fear of the Dark is one of my favorites - I was listening to it earlier so the case was handy for size comparison.

shed'n my skin said:

What do you all think? Here's another pic

I would like everyone else's opinions on this. Maybe she's not the most vibrant snake but lots of orange, nice thick borders, and real big. The seller was calling her an Okeetee but I didn't really find out much about the parents etc.
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It would be nice to see her freshly shed before offering an opinion. But my opinion wouldn't matter much. Okeetee-phase look requirements aren't agreed upon by everyone. And you'll never know if it's locality or of locality heritage, so that aspect of the term doesn't matter here. Personally, I'd rather have a nice normal than a so-so Okeetee, if that makes any sense.

Yeah being as how I know nothing about the locality she's from I was kind of referring to the term Okeetee more as Lookeetee than locality Okeetee if that makes any sense. I'll try to remember and put up some pics of her after she sheds.

Roy Munson said:

Okeetee-phase look requirements aren't agreed upon by everyone. And you'll never know if it's locality or of locality heritage, so that aspect of the term doesn't matter here.

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True that one...If she's russet orange to reddish orange, with reddish orange saddles bordered in black, It sure makes the cut for an Okeetee phase, but like Dean everyones look requirements are different, and if its locality based or not can make a differenvce to folks. Everyone has a differing definitions or "minds eye views" of what makes a snake an Okeetee. I have f1's that are direct descendants of snakes caught between the border lines of the Okeetee Hunt Club property, and have the qualifications (at least to me) of what an Okeetee looks like. They are Okeetees, but I'll sell the f2's (which will be a while as the female will be used to outcross my frosted snow) as "F2's from Hunt Club locality corn snakes"

Okeetee and Miami, Carolina's, "Hunt Clubs"...They are all just names for normal corns. Meself I'd like to see all corns from wild caughts called "wild phase" corns, or "Classic Normals", Every other normal, all the thosands of byproducts produced every year, call them.........."Corn Snakes" ...

post some pics after she sheds...looks like a nice Okeetee or even a milksnake phase corn snake, at least to me, and thats a big J M H O

Thanks.. Whatever she is, she's not too shabby for 40 bones lol. I am really not too hung up on the label since I am planning to use her for breeding with my normal het hypo & z to try and produce z's later. So there's no chance I'd be labeling her offsprings as Okeetee or anything they will just be normals 50% poss het hypo and z.
I believe she's het anery or charcoal, there was also a really black anery baby that was from one of her clutches available. If I wasn't already up to my eyeballs in baby corn snakes I might have gotten it lol.

Congrats! She sure is a big girl! Very nice borders on her too!

Jenn