What the...?

[CARattler40]

Okay, so here's the situation. I try and breed mice for color as well as for feeders, to make it interesting. I bred my male (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN0848.jpg) to one of his daughters (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1195.jpg), hoping for mice the color of the male (fawn, I believe it's called). Out of their litter of 7, I've got 4 yellow-looking mice, 2 satin-looking fawns, and a weird thing. This "weird thing" I can only describe as an agouti with rusty shoulders, but it looks nothing like any agouti I've ever had. I have never been able to get decent pictures 'till today, and even then I had to take 'em out in the sun to get the true colors of this guy.

So, out of curiosity (for those of you with mouse morph knowledge), what the hell is this thing? :shrugs:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1388.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1383.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1380.jpg

Blurry close-up of the "rusty" area: http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1384.jpg

[Flagg]

kind of looks like a brindle.

[JarrodRandel]

Okay, so here's the situation. I try and breed mice for color as well as for feeders, to make it interesting. I bred my male (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN0848.jpg) to one of his daughters (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1195.jpg), hoping for mice the color of the male (fawn, I believe it's called). Out of their litter of 7, I've got 4 yellow-looking mice, 2 satin-looking fawns, and a weird thing. This "weird thing" I can only describe as an agouti with rusty shoulders, but it looks nothing like any agouti I've ever had. I have never been able to get decent pictures 'till today, and even then I had to take 'em out in the sun to get the true colors of this guy.

So, out of curiosity (for those of you with mouse morph knowledge), what the hell is this thing? :shrugs:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1388.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1383.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1380.jpg

Blurry close-up of the "rusty" area: http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/chuck911/mice/DSCN1384.jpg


Only in Texas is it acceptable to breed fathers and daughters and then question the offspring. That's what happens when your genepool resembles more of a puddle than a pool - Texas, land of puddles?

[Turniphead]

I do believe we call those, "miniture german shepards".

[Ssthisto]

That's a sable - a red with the sable modifier - and a satin to boot.

Be careful if you're using the Fawn/Red gene in feeders as it is a lethal homozygous (Dominant Lethal Yellow A^y) - your litters will be around a quarter smaller if you breed fawn to fawn as homozygotes will die in the womb.

[gwb's]

:roflmao: Only in Texas is it acceptable to breed fathers and daughters and then question the offspring. That's what happens when your genepool resembles more of a puddle than a pool - Texas, land of puddles?:roflmao:

[gwb8568]

anery het sunlog......... :shrugs:

[Emanon]

food het turd?

[Mrs InsaneOne]

Um... looks like a color treat???

anery het sunlog.........
I'd say more of a reverse okeetee - too much white in that mouse!


Jenn

[diamondlil]

food het turd?
Ok, I'm childish, but this made me laugh coffee down my nose!

[Daeraelle]

Ok, I'm childish, but this made me laugh coffee down my nose!

Lol. Same here.

[sdmessmer]

Sable is a color pattern. You can get sables in a variety of colors.

Silvia

[CARattler40]

Thanks for the replies, I guess I'll keep this thing around for a bit and see what it turns into. ;)

[Ssthisto]

It'll stay pretty much the same as it is now that the colour's turned - it might get darker on the back, though.

Something else to watch out for with Lethal Dominant Yellow is that mice of that colour are prone to obesity - which can lead to infertility. You're best using a Yellow male on non-yellow females to avoid that.

[Daeraelle]

This is my stud muffin, Milosh. I'm not sure on the morph, but he looks similar. I think he's cute.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/daeraelle/Milosh2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/daeraelle/Milosh.jpg

[kimbyra]

Only in Texas is it acceptable to breed fathers and daughters and then question the offspring. That's what happens when your genepool resembles more of a puddle than a pool - Texas, land of puddles?

Woa! You're saying that and your in Florida? Theres a lot of swampland in Florida....

BTW, Nice mousey! Keep him and see how he grows up. :cheers:

[CARattler40]

BTW, Nice mousey! Keep him and see how he grows up. :cheers:
Thanks Kim. However, a strange illness seems to have cropped up recently in the litter of mice this little guy came out of. I lost an adult female as well as the 3 babies I'd kept. Also, the week before the mice became ill, the very mother of this mouse was devoured by her tankmates. So unfortunately, both this mouse and the female carrying the genes to produce another one have been lost. Hopefully it'll pop up again in the future, his eyes were just beginning to open and he was looking very pretty when he died. :shrugs: :(

[Ssthisto]

If you've still got the fawn male, then you haven't lost the gene.

There's some evidence that 'sable' can pop up in fawn X "tan" (tan belly, other-coloured mouse) breedings.