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I just don't see the "problem"

Droptines

Droptines

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:shrugs: If you kept 2 snakes together,,both females,,both feed at the same time,not together,,,why couldn't they live together ?.
 
Any snake in their general area when not breeding is seen as a competor to them. Doesnt matter where and when you feed them, the scent of food hangs around in the air and on the snake for awhile, and sometimes thats all it takes (sometimes it doesnt even need a slight smell of food) for a feeding response to happen. If you see blood or a regurge or a wierd stool you will have no idea who its from. Ask yourself why you want to house them together; even those who dont see anything wrong with it know things can and have happened that can be prevented easily by keeping them seperate. Your not saving room because you need to have a complete extra setup for the other snake on hand anyways incase it needs to be seperated.

If you have years of experiance with the species, know them well enough to recognise the slight signs of stress and understand their body language then its your choice to take the risks, just know what they are. If your still new to keeping them, still learning, wait untill you have one totally figured out before keeping them together; if you dont know one then taking care of two together (responsibly) is going to be so much harder.
 
If you have years of experiance with the species, know them well enough to recognise the slight signs of stress and understand their body language then its your choice to take the risks, just know what they are. If your still new to keeping them, still learning, wait untill you have one totally figured out before keeping them together;
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Completely agree with this. You need lots of hands-on experience with Corns in general, as well as the individual Corns that you want to put together, before you can even consider starting the research on the risks associated with co-habiting. Not saying it's entirely impossible, but you need to have a very firm grasp of the type of trouble that you might be letting yourself in for.

With regards to your original post, even two females together could start competing for dominance, which may lead to fighting, stress and refusal of food.
 
Can't see much to add to those responses!

Just because one doesn't eat or attack the other doesn't always mean all is well. Stress can be difficult to see and evaluate, especially if you are relatively new to the hobby.
 
If you lived in a one-room studio apartment, and out of nowhere, a complete stranger moved in with you, yet your apartment stayed the same size with all the exact same furniture, how comfortable would you both be? You might share the couch and the TV, but things would not be comfortable. You would be in a constant state of compromise, which is something solitary animals are not good at doing.

In other words, you don't have to be fighting constantly and beating each other up physically for the stress levels to be present. And the longer this uncomfortable situation persisted, the higher the stress levels would get.
 
Those are some good points,,dang :rolleyes:
I just always think that living alone is a bit BORING for any captive animal.
When I'm in a pet shop and see a bunch,,or even just 2 or 3 snakes all curled up in a pile,,looking all content,,I think,man my snake should have a pal to hang with :grin01: :shrugs:
How about when you go to a shop and see a bunch of beardies all hanging out together,,peacefully ??odd,right ?..
Oh well,,a loner she'll remain.
 
Not all species live alone in the wild. Lizards and some other species (I'm not really into lizards so I'm not sure if they all do) do congregate in larger numbers. Cornsnakes do not.
 
When you see them all piled up, its not due to companionship; as stated already its competition for the same spot, and quite possibly in stores there are no good spots available so they try to use each other as a hide.

Its hard to keep from giving snakes emotions we are used to seeing in other animals. Survival for them has depended on them being alone, and that is how their instincts tell them to live. I do believe that as they grow and develop mentally that they do feel more then just fear and hunger (especially with larger snakes), however their emotions cannot be compared to that of a social animal which requires its pack or herd for survival. Instincts tell snakes to live for itself, to do what it needs to to survive; for other animals it tells them to stick with the pack or herd to help them all survive. Snakes do not feel love or companionship or obediance, nature wont give them feelings they dont need. In my experiance though, they do feel trust, safety, comfort, and respect to an extent, even with an ability to bond. You must learn to think like a snake to be able to understand it.
 
It is also not wise to keep beardies together. They will also be competing over the basking spots they won't necessarily try to eat each other but limbs can be bitten off! :eek1:
 
MegF. said:
A herd of snakes would definitely have a hard time getting enough food to eat!
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Wouldnt that be a site though. Sitting around and then all of a sudden 20-30 snakes just slither on by, in their herd. :crazy02:
 
Sure wish I was an artist! These "snake herd" posts really create some interesting pictures in my mind's eye. But unfortunately, there is no "cut and paste" to post them here!
 
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