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Going price for an 07 Banded Amel?

Corny Noob

Corny Noob

Proud Momma
I've been doing some research as I really love the look of banded snakes, especially Amels.
I found one in my state for $70. Now I'm thinking this is a good price. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

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Although in looking at some other pictures I'm really starting to wonder if this little dude qualifies as banded...I wouldn't want to pay $70 for a regular amel...
 
Is that the snake in question? $70 is about right for a nice one. If that's it, the banding isn't so great and I wouldn't pay more than $30, tops, for the one pictured.
 
Yeah, that is the snake pictured.
I've noticed the price is slowly coming down on him, I wonder if I can haggle...
 
It looks some-what like a banded amel... It has a nice pattern and color for sure. $70 seems a bit high though, if it's from a breeder.
 
I'm supposing I should contact the guy, see if he's the actual breeder or just someone passing the snake along, and if he has other pictures....
 
I would go with your first instinct. I would not look at the price, and just look at the snake. Think in your head about what you would pay for the snake. If it comes close to the offering price, then you might have yourself a new corn.
 
Well I am curious to see what the snake looks like "from above" also I think this guy might be close enough to warrant me actually looking at the snake first.
 
If you're looking for a banded amel, then I would wait and find a really nice one. Don Soderberg has great banded snakes. That one pictured is not as nice as they come, so I personally wouldn't buy it as a banded amel.
 
Yeah I was looking at Don's site...and I'm already absolutly smitten with the pastel mot I got from him...hrrmmmm
 
Well the breeder wrote back but he did not give me any new pictures. He said this though:

i bred him, i have both his parents he is not fully banded to the belly but both his parents are and he has the genetics to produce fully banded cornsnakes with almost pure white ground color, he is eating large pinkies, i don't know the weight of him but if you up his feeding he should be able to breed next year

I thought banding was selective breeding, not from any particular inherited allele? Or have I misunderstood?
 
I would ask to see the parents also. Banding is line bred, they cannot be het for banded. If line bred and you want to continue, you should get the best specimens. I agree with not paying more than $30 for the snake. If you plan on spending more, I would just get them from a well known breeder. Thats my opinion. It is a really pretty snake though :)
 
Corny Noob said:
Well the breeder wrote back but he did not give me any new pictures. He said this though:

i bred him, i have both his parents he is not fully banded to the belly but both his parents are and he has the genetics to produce fully banded cornsnakes with almost pure white ground color, he is eating large pinkies, i don't know the weight of him but if you up his feeding he should be able to breed next year

I thought banding was selective breeding, not from any particular inherited allele? Or have I misunderstood?
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It is a selectively bred trait, and he can't have genetics to produce candy canes, as that, too, is selectively bred look. If you're wanting a amel banded motley, I would save your money and go somewhere else and get one that is a screamer; that one is mediocre (and if I was selling it, I wouldn't label it as banded) and the breeder either doesn't know what he's talking about, or is trying to pull a fast one on you with this nonsense about having genetics that don't exist.
 
Ok so I'm not going crazy, cause I didn't think it was a breedable trait.
Also does he think I'd power feed him to get an 07 that's only on pinks up to breeding size so soon?! :eek:
 
You can easily get an '07 male up to breeding size by next year by feeding on the Munson plan. They can start breeding at about 100 grams.

As for pattern being inheritable, it's hit and miss to me. I have an amel female with about three sections of connected saddles and she has been bred to males with perfectly normal patterns, each time she has produced a few really nice zig zag babies and loads of normal patterns. It's not something a snake can be "het" for, but it if this amel you're looking at came from banded candy cane parents, then there is a good chance he will produce some nice banded candy cane babies down the road if bred to the right females. There's never a guarantee of pattern or colour repeating itself in the next generation.
 
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I wasn't aware that males were ready to breed at 100 grams. I was thinking at least 200g, no wonder the boys always seem to look so small next to the males.

I figure I'm just gonna hold out now after all the advice from you fine folks. Probally just get one from Don :)
 
Corny Noob said:
Ok so I'm not going crazy, cause I didn't think it was a breedable trait.
Also does he think I'd power feed him to get an 07 that's only on pinks up to breeding size so soon?! :eek:
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First, being crazy is my thing. You can not steal my style. :blowhead:

Second, judging from the breeder's reply, he/she looks like he doesn't know much.

Lastly, if he's an 07 then you aren't going to be able to get him up to breeding size in a year. Just another example of the breeder's intelligence. Remember 3-3-3? 3 years old, 300 grams and 3 feet long? I don't think the corn will be any of those in a year.
 
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