Caramel Blood Red yearling

yup want this one too

that grey head makes it look mighty wierd hehe nice snake mind

oh....thanks Rich for that pic

That is one pissed off looking corn. Looks as if he's ready to tag Rich at any moment. Can't say that I'm too impressed with the way the caramel blood's are developing. Thought there would be a little more happening there?

nice!

now lets see you cross it with an anery and get pewter caramels? and then heck, why don't you try butter pewters? the combinations you come out with every year are too much. We'll all go broke trying to buy all your new morphs .

nice animals rich, as always. Can't wait to see what else you have been hiding, just waiting to grow up; and I can't imagine what next year will bring.

I'd have to agree with Kevin
the caramel blood isn't looking too nice. By the looks of it, it just looks like a normal caramel with a grey head. But I really would wonder what it would look like when it's fully matured and get it's full colors. Would it be looking like a bloodred with just plain red where this caramel bloodred would only be caramel color all the way down........if that is the case I would definately love to see photos of it and I am sure that I want some of those!!!

hmmm does that mean caramel masks bloodred?! Man add that to your figures and you get a big ole' headache then cobine the fact that lavender is masked by anery man oh man i feel bad for you Rich! AND then the MULTIPLE hyops! Sorry couldnt resist bring that up! LOL

i wonder if....

i wonder if lavender would mask caramel then? maybe if you keep this up rich, you'll find the most dominant gene.

Now THAT would be intresting! Keep'em coming Rich!

i was thinking...

do you think there are two seperate genes for color? one for head color and one for body color. Because this blood caramel has a caramel body and blood head. Rich also has a hypo looking corn but has an amel head? Just a thought.

WES

I would have to

agree with Kevin and Simon. Unless the colors change as it matures, I am not too impressed either. Right now it looks - to me - like a caramel that was hidding under wet newspaper and rubbed the newsprint all over it.
I would definitely be interested in seeing pictures of this guy when it matures to see if the bloodred influence changes it. It would be nice to be pleasantly surprised.

WES, i know for a fact that the head, dorsal and sides are controlled by different parts of the body look at white sided ratsnakes for an example! There is no doubt in my mind that in the next few years we will have "White-sided lavender head bloodred" mutants on the loose LOL! I am sure we will eventually get an all black cornsnake soon too and a luecistic too plus all the hypos from a-z and almost every color of the rainbow! imagine the "Black headed white bodied Corn snake" its going to be crazy LOL! (I know I am crazy!)

As for the snake I dont like it unless it changes (Which i doubt! IMO) caramels just dont do it for me.

Of course, the appearance of any snake is going to be appreciated to one degree or another based upon pur personal preferences. However, there is an intrinsic value to ANY animal that homozygous for multiple traits. Even if you did not appreciate the specific combination results, a caramel bloodred male can be used for multiple breeding projects, thereby eliminating the need for other males to perform the same task.

I understand from those few who have produced them, that blizzard bloodreds and snow bloodreds are no real lookers. However, having those genes in homozygous form in one snake (especially a male) produces breeding possibilities without having to fill my racks with multiple mouths to feed.

Just thought I'd through another perspective into the mix . . .

Personally, I like the caramel bloodred mixture!

i agree with you all...

I think Darin has hit the point when he brings up the fact that it eliminates having to have multiple males. But i also agree with everyones else when they say it it not a looker.

The fact that it is the first double homozygous animal of it's kind, brings it an aura about it that just says "WOW". imo.

~WES

I totally agree on all points there "well that Thar ain't no looker!" eek but it cuts down on room!

Let me point out one more thing that I think we tend to forget, at times. Bloodred is a pattern mutation, rather than a coloration issue. The bloodred color comes only from the specific line breeding of a particular animal's lineage. How that may, or may not affect the coloration of any animals produced in a multiple homozygous situation, is COMPLETELY up to the laws of chance and is highly unpredictable.

So, when we look at a picture of a particular animal, there are LOTS of variables that go into why that one looks as it does. However a sibling, or another animal with different lineages may well look completely different. This is especially true when the two homozygous traits are for different aspects of the appearance (color AND pattern).

I guess I'm one of the few that likes the look of that caramel bloodred. 'Course I'm also one of the few that doesn't like stripes all that well!

There's just a huge amount of variation in how individual examples of any cultivar (or mixtures of them) will look in comparison to one another. I don't think anyone wants to write off an entire line of possibilities, just because a picture doesn't strike your fancy immediately.

That's the great thing about corns . . . there's enough variation for everyone! Don't like what you see? Wait five minutes and someone will produce something you DO like!

Darin,

You're not the only one that likes it. Mark me as a fan of the Bloody Caramels, eh Caramel Bloods.

Or as I am fond of referring to them as: The Cow Plop Corns.

I just have this mental image of what one would look like coiled up on the front lawn......

if i found....

if i found one of your "cow plop corns" in MY front yard, i might leave a "plop" of my own when I found it!!

~WES