Lump developed on My snake

[Naias_Snakes]

I have had My girl for over 9 years now and about 6 months ago She started getting a lump by or at Her belly. It has grown a lot where it looks like She has eaten a rat. It does not seem to hurt Her. She is eating , shedding and drinking fine , but it is worrying Me. I took Her to a vet and She couldn't help Me at all.. Only said if She doesn't seem like She is in pain don't worry about it.. Well I am worried. She is My baby and part of My family.. Does anyone know what it could be? I want to thank anyone who could help Me out..

[Shiari]

No regurges? No weight loss?

The most likely options are either crypto, a tumor, or an abscess. If you can, find another veterinarian that specialises in reptiles.

[bitsy]

I agree that you need to go elsewhere and find expert help. It doesn't sound like the vet was very experienced - they wouldn't have left a cat or dog in that state. If they didn't know what it was, then they should have run more checks/tests to find out.

So sorry you're having to go through this. It's terribly worrying.

[Naias_Snakes]

No weight lose at all. Now Her poo seems different like all liquid and nothing at all formed.. Yes I do agree if She would have been a cat or dog the vet would have done more , but being a snake She didn't seem to care.. Problem is the nearest Reptile vet to Me is about 170 miles each way..

[Dakota314]

May she have an impaction? Where do you feed her?

[cornsnakeforsale_com]

Yeah, could be something ingested (i.e. wood chips) that won't digest.

I had one like that where I massaged the lump a little and luckily it went away.

[Naias_Snakes]

May she have an impaction? Where do you feed her?

I feed her in Her cage. She does not seem to be in any pain at all.. It's like all soft like fluid or fatty tissue

[Naias_Snakes]

No regurges? No weight loss?

The most likely options are either crypto, a tumor, or an abscess. If you can, find another veterinarian that specialises in reptiles.

Here is a pic of Her belly

[Nanci]

I would bet that is not crypto. I would find a reptile vet for a second opinion.

[Weda737]

Definitely get to another vet, they should at least want to biopsy it or something. I have a friend who's had to have surgery on her pet rat for fatty lumps, no vet should dismiss any animal.

[epicdoom]

sorry about your troubles I would go to another vet sounds like he didn't wanna be bothered or just doesn't know snakes. I had an ultra with a lump on her jaw turned out to be trauma because she would climb on the rim of her tank near the screen lid and eventually fall. She at some point must have impacted something. The vet I took her to gave me a hard time about checking her out the way I thought she should have been, at least till I mentioned I'd be back and very unpleasant if I would loose her because he was Lazy. I got the exam that I was paying for and then some. As a Combat Marine Vet I have no tolerance for people who don't do there job and or do it half A**ed. My ultra healed up in about 2 weeks and I now cut that little lip off tanks so they can get up there.

I hope all goes well your your Baby

Joe

[Naias_Snakes]

I agree , Guess She figured Pinkie is just a snake. Makes Me so mad when ppl act like they are not like My family. I love each and everyone.

[Naias_Snakes]

sorry about your troubles I would go to another vet sounds like he didn't wanna be bothered or just doesn't know snakes. I had an ultra with a lump on her jaw turned out to be trauma because she would climb on the rim of her tank near the screen lid and eventually fall. She at some point must have impacted something. The vet I took her to gave me a hard time about checking her out the way I thought she should have been, at least till I mentioned I'd be back and very unpleasant if I would loose her because he was Lazy. I got the exam that I was paying for and then some. As a Combat Marine Vet I have no tolerance for people who don't do there job and or do it half A**ed. My ultra healed up in about 2 weeks and I now cut that little lip off tanks so they can get up there.

I hope all goes well your your Baby

Joe

Thank You Joe.. Like I have said I love My babies like My kids.. I guess I'll have to take her maybe to TX and see what they can find out..

here is a pic of her belly..

[bitsy]

Poor lass - no wonder you're concerned. Good luck finding a vet who cares - there *are* good ones out there.

If it helps, tumours tend to feel harder and not move much when felt. If the lump soft and squishy this makes cancer a less likely outcome. Corns can develop fat lumps which feel soft and squisy and they can be very pronounced. However this isn't usually the place on the body where they occur.

Sending good wishes your way.

[Naias_Snakes]

Poor lass - no wonder you're concerned. Good luck finding a vet who cares - there *are* good ones out there.

If it helps, tumours tend to feel harder and not move much when felt. If the lump soft and squishy this makes cancer a less likely outcome. Corns can develop fat lumps which feel soft and squisy and they can be very pronounced. However this isn't usually the place on the body where they occur.

Sending good wishes your way.

I'm hoping Your right about the cancer.. Yes it feeling like it's nothing but fluid. I'll have to see when I can get Her in for at least maybe a x-ray...

[toxiclight]

Do you have a zoo near you? Maybe find out who they use for a vet?

[Naias_Snakes]

I called petco to ask them about who sees their snakes and they sent Me to the vet I went to who didn't help.. Go figure..

[jessicashallperish]

you should try a zoo.

[Naias_Snakes]

Yeah I'll call around and see if I can find one to help?

[SnakeAround]

I guess since she is eating, there is nothing stuck in her stomach... I would not expect her to eat if there was.. but at the other hand, I have never seen a lump like this before either. Can't be comfortbale to say the least. Weird how there are 4 bulges..maybe something is wrong with her belly muscles? Sorry can't help speculating but really, it could be anything. Hopefully you'll find a vet who at least examines her. It's not like a snake totally doesn't 'work' like other animals.... some basic stuff should be covered by any vet.

[Naias_Snakes]

I guess since she is eating, there is nothing stuck in her stomach... I would not expect her to eat if there was.. but at the other hand, I have never seen a lump like this before either. Can't be comfortbale to say the least. Weird how there are 4 bulges..maybe something is wrong with her belly muscles? Sorry can't help speculating but really, it could be anything. Hopefully you'll find a vet who at least examines her. It's not like a snake totally doesn't 'work' like other animals.... some basic stuff should be covered by any vet.

Yeah all She did was squeeze Her lump for about 2 mins saying, well She doesn't seem like she is in pain. As long as She is acting normal don't worry. I was like OMG . You could tell She didn't like pinkie at all.. But a puppy She was so sweet.. Makes Me so mad some ppl act like just because they are snakes they can't be loved and show love. My Pinkie loves curling up on My lap and lay there while We watch tv or I get a blanket and cover all but her head and She will stay there forever. LOL

[SnakeAround]

I think it is ridiculous to say oh hey, she does not seem to be in pain, just ignore it..... we want to prevent them from being in pain!

[Naias_Snakes]

I think it is ridiculous to say oh hey, she does not seem to be in pain, just ignore it..... we want to prevent them from being in pain!

I agree fully.. Like I said , most ppl do not think of them as great pets. I love all of My Babies like My kids..

[epicdoom]

I don't know how anyone could not be willing to bend over backwards to help an animal they cant help themselves. I don't recall any animals completing or even attending med school. It's obvious something is wrong from your picture. IMO if I'm a vet who is supposed to care about animals in order to properly care for them, red flags are popping up all over the place. I see something not normal like that, I'm doing all I can to figure out the problem for my client, but more important for the well being of the animal. To bad its illegal to choke people or I'd offer my services free of charge. If you don't mind I want to show that picture to my vet, maybe he can recommend someone in your town who doesn't mind rolling up the sleeves and getting the hands dirty to help. Again I hope all works out for you and your baby I know its tuff to deal with pets become family.

Joe

[Naias_Snakes]

I don't know how anyone could not be willing to bend over backwards to help an animal they cant help themselves. I don't recall any animals completing or even attending med school. It's obvious something is wrong from your picture. IMO if I'm a vet who is supposed to care about animals in order to properly care for them, red flags are popping up all over the place. I see something not normal like that, I'm doing all I can to figure out the problem for my client, but more important for the well being of the animal. To bad its illegal to choke people or I'd offer my services free of charge. If you don't mind I want to show that picture to my vet, maybe he can recommend someone in your town who doesn't mind rolling up the sleeves and getting the hands dirty to help. Again I hope all works out for you and your baby I know its tuff to deal with pets become family.

Joe
Oh Thank You so much. I live in Lone grove Oklahoma. She didn't care about Her for sure, But She sure still charged Me for the visit.. I as well get so mad about ppl like Her. It's a shame but there are People out there who are mean and cruel to animals they are scared of or just don't understand them.

[Weda737]

Okay, yeah if you can at least consult a good vet, they can tell you what should be done. If I didn't have any choice I would go back to your vet and spell it all out for them, tell them exactly what procedure you want done and what you expect from them. I have a pretty good reptile vet that you could probably call, let me know if you're interested and I'll give you the number.

[cornsnakeforsale_com]

"...all She did was squeeze Her lump for about 2 mins saying, well She doesn't seem like she is in pain"

And they charged you for this service? I'd demand my money back, that's ridiculous, they're supposed to be doctors. If they have no idea what they're doing they need to refer you to a specialist.

[screamindemon17]

One of my babies from this year just got a lump on his back which he didnt have when i adopted him out to the school .it doesnt seem to hurt him but each day it seems to get bigger. It feels soft to me and kinda reminds me of this sitch. But dont now what it is. That is why i was looking then came across this one

[Naias_Snakes]

Well I was thinking at first maybe she was just getting fat but it grew and only that one place.. It has gone down some but still has not gone away. Here are more pix of it if anyone could help?

[Naias_Snakes]

Okay, yeah if you can at least consult a good vet, they can tell you what should be done. If I didn't have any choice I would go back to your vet and spell it all out for them, tell them exactly what procedure you want done and what you expect from them. I have a pretty good reptile vet that you could probably call, let me know if you're interested and I'll give you the number.

Yes please , I can at least call. Thank You so much...

[Naias_Snakes]

Well I was thinking at first maybe she was just getting fat but it grew and only that one place.. It has gone down some but still has not gone away. Here are more pix of it if anyone could help?

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[Naias_Snakes]

I have had My girl for over 9 years now and about 6 months ago She started getting a lump by or at Her belly. It has grown a lot where it looks like She has eaten a rat. It does not seem to hurt Her. She is eating , shedding and drinking fine , but it is worrying Me. I took Her to a vet and She couldn't help Me at all.. Only said if She doesn't seem like She is in pain don't worry about it.. Well I am worried. She is My baby and part of My family.. Does anyone know what it could be? I want to thank anyone who could help Me out..

Here are the pix of Her belly..

[epicdoom]

Naias I sent that pic to my vet. he said it could be as simple as trauma or something worse but without an exam he wouldn't want to speculate any further he said he will email me a good vet in Oklahoma for snakes after he consults the registry for that state. the second he sends me the Info I'll forward that to you.

Joe

[Naias_Snakes]

Naias I sent that pic to my vet. he said it could be as simple as trauma or something worse but without an exam he wouldn't want to speculate any further he said he will email me a good vet in Oklahoma for snakes after he consults the registry for that state. the second he sends me the Info I'll forward that to you.

Joe

Thank You so much for Your help. In away it does make Me feel better that I might be able to find someone to help My girl out.. Thank You again.. :rolleyes:

[epicdoom]

OK got some info for you he was unable to track down reptile vets in Ardmore
this is what he sent me not sure how close they are to you. I have been to Oklahoma 2 times my whole life going to Camp Pendleton Ca. and coming home. I hope these help

North Penn Veterinary Hospital
12241 N Pennsylvania Ave
Oklahoma City, OK 73120
(405) 748-0929

Rose Rock Veterinary Hospital
400 24th Ave NW
Norman, OK 73069
(405) 633-2972

Barta Animal Hospital
1861 S. 10th St.
Independence, KS 67301
(620) 464-9969

[Naias_Snakes]

OK got some info for you he was unable to track down reptile vets in Ardmore
this is what he sent me not sure how close they are to you. I have been to Oklahoma 2 times my whole life going to Camp Pendleton Ca. and coming home. I hope these help

North Penn Veterinary Hospital
12241 N Pennsylvania Ave
Oklahoma City, OK 73120
(405) 748-0929

Rose Rock Veterinary Hospital
400 24th Ave NW
Norman, OK 73069
(405) 633-2972
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Barta Animal Hospital
1861 S. 10th St.
Independence, KS 67301
(620) 464-9969

Please tell Norman ( about 90 miles from Me) I will call them and see what They tell Me.. I thank You as well as Pinkie Thanx U ;)

[Naias_Snakes]

Please tell Your Vet I said Thank You . Normanis the closest to Me ( about 90 miles from Me) I will call them and see what They tell Me.. I thank You as well as Pinkie Thanx U ;) I will let U know how it turns out..

[epicdoom]

I wish you the best.

Joe

[Naias_Snakes]

I wish you the best.

Joe

Thank You, Well They want to see her so hoping to get out that way next week..

[Weda737]

Good, I'm glad someone can actually take the time to examine her. Some vets can be downright disappointing.

[Naias_Snakes]

Good, I'm glad someone can actually take the time to examine her. Some vets can be downright disappointing.

Well if it has fur and a wagging tail they love them. But scales for get it.

[Weda737]

I know what you mean, luckily my vet keeps boas and tortoises as well, she absolutely loves my Dumerils, I've never had to take a corn snake in but she used to breed those as well. She stopped because all of the inbreeding and deformed babies being created for pretty colors. When we couldn't get my Dumerils boa cured of his RI she got on the phone with a specialist while we were there lol. She even did some research on the species after our first visit because she wasn't very familiar with that particular snake. I was going to give you the number but it seems like others helped you more, your sweet little snake will finally get the care she needs.

[Naias_Snakes]

I know what you mean, luckily my vet keeps boas and tortoises as well, she absolutely loves my Dumerils, I've never had to take a corn snake in but she used to breed those as well. She stopped because all of the inbreeding and deformed babies being created for pretty colors. When we couldn't get my Dumerils boa cured of his RI she got on the phone with a specialist while we were there lol. She even did some research on the species after our first visit because she wasn't very familiar with that particular snake. I was going to give you the number but it seems like others helped you more, your sweet little snake will finally get the care she needs.

I do hope this one is like Ur Vet for sure.. I've had Pinkie for over 9 years so She is like My oldest child. LOL.. If You will I would like the number? It can not hurt to get different options now can it? ;)

[Weda737]

PM sent. Hope it helps.

[VickyChaiTea]

Aw man... what an incompetent vet! They should never have charged you for that and should have told you they don't know anything about snakes! I hope your little one does better.

[diamondlil]

Good luck for your baby. Hopefully the new vet will be able to help

[Naias_Snakes]

PM sent. Hope it helps.

TY got it but website isn't working.. :(

[Weda737]

TY got it but website isn't working.. :(

lol well, 'nother pm sent.

[shellby22]

update? How is your poor baby doing?

[Naias_Snakes]

Sad news , it was cancer. I had to put Her down. I so wanted to just take Her home w/ Me and let Her live Her life out , But then thought, how could I do that to Her? It was the hardest thing I ever had to do... I miss My girl very much.

[Christen]

I am so sorry. Poor baby was lucky to have an owner that cared so much about her.

[SnakeAround]

Aw too bad but to be honest I was not expecting a good outcome..... sadly it happens to all of us sooner or later.

[epicdoom]

Sorry to hear that it's hard to just let them go. Knowing what the rite thing to do in that situation is even harder. You did the rite thing no more suffering for her. Knowing you gave her the best care and love rite to the end should make you happy I'm sure she was. I hope you will not give up on snakes. It's tuff to get another one with her loss still fresh in your heart. She can never be replaced but she can be remembered through the love and care you give to another. I wish you the best.

[Naias_Snakes]

Sorry to hear that it's hard to just let them go. Knowing what the rite thing to do in that situation is even harder. You did the rite thing no more suffering for her. Knowing you gave her the best care and love rite to the end should make you happy I'm sure she was. I hope you will not give up on snakes. It's tuff to get another one with her loss still fresh in your heart. She can never be replaced but she can be remembered through the love and care you give to another. I wish you the best.

Thank You for Ur kind words.. I still cry when I think of Her and see Her empty cage.. As to giving up on snakes? Never. I still have 6 others , but none will ever replace Pinkie .. She was My first and My Baby girl..

[shellby22]

I'm very sorry to hear you lost your baby.

[Campitor]

I'm sorry for your loss. I was wondering how this was. Every pet is special and I know what that type of loss feels like. Will have good thoughts for you and the rest of your family and pets.

[bitsy]

I'm so sorry. I lost one to cancer a couple of years ago. It always feels like you could have done more, but honestly, you absolutely pulled out all the stops for her. At least she didn't suffer drawn-out suffering. That was a very brave decision on your part.

[kaypar2011]

So sorry for your loss.

[diamondlil]

RIP Pinkie. Condolences for your loss.

[meg53]

So sorry to hear about Pinkie.

[Naias_Snakes]

Thank You everyone , She will be missed always.. Just hard not seeing Her after being w/ Me for over 9 years. Going to be hard not having Her curl up on My lap while I watch TV..

[Becca58]

I am so very sorry for your loss, Naia. Losing a pet is every bit as difficult as losing any of our human relatives.

[Kate]

Oh,I am so sorry, I read this from the beginning and halfway through saw your signature :(
I am actually in school to be a vet tech, and I will hopefully go to vet school afterwords. For me, if it has a pulse, I think it is adorable, be it furred feathered, or ESPECIALLY scaled! I hope to be an exotic vet, I am sorry you had a poor experience.

[Weda737]

I don't know about you, but when people offer me their condolences it's just like pouring salt in the wound, but I do want to say, You went above and beyond in trying to care for her, I don't think she could have had a better home.