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The last 2014 snake pairing for Elemental Exotics

Tavia
08-30-2014, 09:56 PM
Paired them up yesterday and witnessed an immediate lockup. Looking to have hatchlings (if we are lucky) around December.

Here is Indigo, T- Albino Cape African House snake.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/ca11973c9046ef01b4ccacbf83d7bb90_zps7cef9034.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/95126ccbdfb97762b78a5f9817d4b252_zpsb2317c37.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/801f4956c10008ee2a995269e2fec77e_zps06c90a26.jpg

And Ukiah, male normal het Albino African House snake.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/fd333cca033282feb1e2e808dd8e899e_zps6111a345.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/2c06f4db1c20d313017d4e66692b674f_zps818aa895.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/4b669cfe900fd385cc577ca54037c4dc_zpsd3085dd2.jpg

ceduke
08-30-2014, 10:15 PM
Oh...I love house snakes! I look forward to seeing their babies!

hypnoctopus
08-30-2014, 10:21 PM
Very neat. I hope you get some morph babies.

ravendance
08-30-2014, 10:43 PM
WOW!!! Those eyes!!! They are both very very pretty..GL!!

Aurora314
08-30-2014, 11:57 PM
I love their eyes! Best of luck on the pairing!

Tavia
08-31-2014, 12:43 AM
Thanks! I love their eyes too!

MysticExotics
08-31-2014, 01:29 AM
Very cool! I too, love their eyes!

Nanci
08-31-2014, 12:20 PM
Can't wait to see hatchlings!! They are soooo pretty.

MotleyMedusa7
08-31-2014, 03:55 PM
Love them, good luck with babies! :)

Tavia
08-31-2014, 03:57 PM
Thanks! Fingers crossed that the little worms will be good eaters!

Kokopelli
09-11-2014, 06:28 AM
They are insanely prolific- be prepared :)

Tavia
09-11-2014, 10:08 AM
This I know, in theory, anyway. And hopefully I am prepared! Guess we'll see, this time next year ...

Tavia
11-04-2014, 12:07 PM
Indigo laid her first ever clutch sometime last night! She quite surprised me by laying 10 fertile eggs and no slugs, I was expecting a slightly smaller clutch, this being her first time.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_2314_zpsccec9df2.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_2315_zps4fda461a.jpg

TyeW
11-04-2014, 12:09 PM
Wow congrats! House snakes are some of my favourites, I'd love to get a pair eventually.

hypnoctopus
11-04-2014, 03:46 PM
Beautiful snake with some beautiful eggs!

Tavia
11-04-2014, 04:11 PM
Thanks! Fingers crossed incubation goes well and that the babies will eat readily!

Tavia
11-14-2014, 12:41 PM
Candled the eggs and eight of them are developing very well! Although they look fertile from the outside, two of them seem to be bereft of veins though. Guess we will just have to wait and see with those two. Took some not great cell phone pics of them. Used the cell, as it was easier to manage that and the light than it would have been with the real camera.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/20141114_102548_zpsajncrsst.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/20141114_102458_zpshc4q2oec.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/20141114_102450_zpsxkuzndmw.jpg

Tavia
03-17-2015, 07:03 PM
Indigo full of eggs on 3/15/15.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_2978_zpsa1zf6wzb.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_2979_zpsifxai2lo.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_2980_zpsgjkkkzlq.jpg

And her second clutch laid 3/17/15. She laid 12 eggs this time.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_3071_zpslpqxnqmv.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/African%20House%20Snake/DSC_3072_zpskioge2ze.jpg

Ravenessa
03-17-2015, 07:12 PM
wow!! how long are the eggs incubated??

Tavia
03-17-2015, 07:19 PM
The first clutch were laid 11/4/14 and started to hatch 1/11/15. I'm actually going to be incubating these at a little lower temp and am hoping it takes a little longer for them to hatch. The first clutch has not been good eaters, with only one eating consistently and just now 2 others have started to eat a little bit, although not consistently yet. Maybe letting them cook a little longer will help, figure it's worth trying anyway.

Ravenessa
03-17-2015, 07:20 PM
lol @ cook a little longer, I do understand the concept but it sounds so bad.
How much lower will you put the grade? 2-3 10 degrees? when will we get to see pics?

Ravenessa
03-17-2015, 07:21 PM
oh oh was that the three little guy in the moss? small wiggle worms? <3

Tavia
03-17-2015, 07:47 PM
Here is the thread with the babies hatching.
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139578

Unfortunately, the first one that hatched I had to cull as it had a heart defect and one of the others never ate on it's own and died awhile ago. In better news, the albino ate a live pink left in his cage overnight a few days ago, the first time he's ever eaten on his own and one of the normals also ate a live pink that night too. That one had previously eaten an F/T pinky head on it's own but then refused the next two offerings. I'll be trying live again on them tomorrow, fingers crossed they eat again!

The old thermostat that I had on the incubator had a wide range that it allowed, up to 3 degrees above or below the set temp, which was set at 83 degrees but was often at 80 to 86 degrees. My husband made a new thermostat 2 months ago though, that is much tighter, keeping the temps within one degree of the set temp. I've had it running for about 2 months now and it's been working great! So this time I'll be keeping the temps around 81-82 degrees. So not too much lower but a lot more consistent.

Ravenessa
03-17-2015, 07:52 PM
Im sorry :( you put in so much work on these guys. This is why I shake my head at people just wanting to breed and put two snakes together with no long term planning at all :( like a guy I dated.. his snakes were barely the right size nor age, I told him to wait another season. He was like oh i put them together for shits and giggles, they locked.. ok Great asshole, what are you going to do with the eggs now? you got an incubator? he brought a friends snake in and got mites everywhere.. smh.. I hope it goes better with this clutch!

Tavia
03-18-2015, 02:11 PM
Thanks, hoping it goes better with this clutch too!

Tavia
03-18-2015, 06:31 PM
Well, so far #3, the little normal that had eaten twice before, just ate again today. Hopefully the other 2 will eat overnight!

Tavia
03-18-2015, 10:00 PM
The albino, #5, ate his pinky today too! Now if #2 would just get with the program! It just occurred to me that the one stubborn non eater corn that I never got eating last year was also #2, maybe I should skip that number for all further clutches?!

Ravenessa
03-18-2015, 10:52 PM
haha so nr 2 is cursed good to know! I am glad you are getting them to eat they are soooo cute <3