snake puked

[Snowbaby]

my baby corn snake ate she did great then two days later went into the blue phase her eyes just cleared up n I found in her tank what looked like a pinkie mouse she puked up must of been in her stomach for awhile she even pooped a day r so ago. what should I do is he gonna die? I know not to feed her again for a week are so n when I do something way smaller but is there anyhitng I should do??

[hypnoctopus]

Most likely your baby regurged because of eating while in blue. She may have digested some of it (hence the poop), but you should still follow the regurge protocol. Here's the detailed explanation of what steps to take, copied and pasted from Kathy Love:

Kathy Love FAQ's

FAQ from Kathy Love on Regurgitation Treatment

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT - once a snake has regurged, especially twice or more, it is more likely to keep on regurging until it dies, unless something is changed about its care and feeding. It is very important NOT to let this continue. PLEASE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW VERY CAREFULLY. This is from my FAQ on regurges:

I suspect your problem is probably not bad mice, but about handling too soon, feeding too soon or too large of a meal, a stomach "bug", or improper temps. If you make these mistakes once, or even twice, it is not usually a problem if you FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY. But remember, each time it regurges, the stomach acids are depleted, and the whole electrolyte balance is thrown off more and more each time, and it makes it MORE likely that it will continue to throw up until it dies. (those consequences are just my opinions - I do not know if science backs up my conclusions, but my experience certainly does!) That is why it is so important to NOT ALLOW another regurge.

The next month or two is crucial. DO NOT feed it for AT LEAST 8 days since the last regurge. NOT ANYTHING AT ALL! Then get a newborn frozen pinky and cut it in half (or cut off just the head) If she eats it, leave her alone for a whole week. (no handling). Repeat the partial pinkie feeding the following week. Then feed a whole newborn pinkie a week after that, if there has been no regurge. Leave alone for a whole week. If she regurges, wait a week and repeat 1/2 pinkie. If she keeps it down, wait a week and repeat whole pinkie. If she holds down a couple of meals, DO NOT rush back into larger meals and more handling. Treat this seriously. Go very slowly. After 3 successful meals, go to a newborn pink every 5 days. Go back to normal feedings only after 6 successful meals. Always wait to handle until after 3 or 4 days, but only AFTER 6 successful meals. No handling until then (causes stress, need to keep stress down). And NEVER feed again right after a regurge - ALWAYS wait AT LEAST 7 or 8 days, maybe even up to 10 days, and then only feed something that was about 1/2 the size (or less) of what she regurged..

Also, be sure that temps are not too warm or cool. Try to give an area of low to mid 80s on one side and 70s on the other. Too hot or cold will cause regurges.

Grapefruit seed extract can sometimes help if the snake has some sort of "stomach bug" (any microbial problem) as it is a natural remedy that is good against many kinds of pathogens, but not as strong as an antibiotic prescribed by a doctor. This product has been used in agriculture for many years and seems to be very safe, as long as you dilute it with enough water that the acidity does not burn the tissues. A vet has told me he feels that it may somewhat alter the pH of the animal and thus change the way medicines are absorbed. So if you use this product and then take the snake to a vet, mention the treatment so it can be taken into account if the vet decides to change the prescription because of it. It is best to mix it in a glass and taste it to make sure it is not so bitter that the snake refuses to drink it. I have used it on myself and so has my husband. I find it works better on stomach problems than for other symptoms (such as respiratory - I didn't have any luck treating colds or other respiratory problems).You can buy it at a local health food store or online. Please refer to the following website for more background info:
http://www.nutriteam.com/index2.html

I have also had success with a probiotic called Nutri Bac, a fine powder containing seven different microflora that should be inhabiting the gut of reptiles, but may be absent due to stress, disease, antibiotic treatments, etc. Using the powder as a supplement will sometimes allow the reptile to get back the natural balance of microbes in its digestive tract, and then its own immune system can take over. See my website for more details, or go here:
http://www.cornutopia.com/Corn%20Ut...information.htm

The number of days and amounts of food, etc, suggested above are not set in stone. Other people may have success with slightly different formulas, but this is what I found works for me and many of my customers. If this protocol does not work when carefully followed, it is likely that the snake has some severe problems. Your only hope is a QUALIFIED herp vet, who may or may not be able to save your pet.

Your snake will most likely be fine. Unless your snake has some sort of underlying issue, if you handle the regurge appropriately, she should bounce right back with no problem.

[Snowbaby]

Thanks for the info I hope she's gonna be ok. I think it had to do with the fact she went into shed she didn't look like she was gonna when I feed her are else I never would have but she's albino so it's hard to tell sometimes. Iam taking her to the vet tomorrow.

[hypnoctopus]

I would probably wait on a vet visit, honestly. A vet trip will be very stressful for her, and unless it is a vet who specializes in reptiles, they may not have any good advice for you. I would follow the protocol I posted and if she for some reason doesn't keep her next meal down, then maybe consider a vet.

It can definitely be more difficult to notice the early signs of shedding in the albino morphs, but once you've had her for a while, you should be able to notice a change in her behavior (staying hidden all the time) when she goes blue even if you don't see the physical changes.

[Snowbaby]

Yeah I know I got few snakes this one always hides first one I got from a pet store I love her just wish didn't go to a pet store they did say they would pay for it and it is a reptial vet but ya that was my concern to that it would be stressful specially since she hasn't shed yet I prolly will post pone the trip and wait and see this is first snake who has ever done this but iam gonna follow what u posted and see what happens.

[Snowbaby]

Has this every happened to you if so what was the outcome

[hypnoctopus]

I have dealt with several regurges, usually my fault.

I had one snake who was extremely sensitive to change and he would have a regurge, and I would deal with it, and then a few feeds later, he would have another one. So for him, I figured out that I had really feed him on the conservative side. He was a few months old when that was happening and now he's three years old and hasn't had a regurge since then.

I haven't had any regurges due to sheds, but I also always err on the side of caution. If I think a snake might be going into blue, I'll either skip a feed or just wait a few days to see if they actually are going into blue. A lot of snakes can eat during blue without a problem, but I'd rather not risk it.

I have not had any snakes die from regurges. I always follow the regurge protocol when it does happen.

[Snowbaby]

The vet ended up wanting to see him she looked at him and said every thing looks good I told her about how I heard to wait like 8 to 10 days before feeding again she said I should not do that but to feed when he's done shedding said she's seen this allot she's a reptial vet so guess she knows what she's talking about but he hasn't shed yet so I'm just gonna wait cause it'll be about 8 days once he does shed I'm thinking he's like not wanting to shed it's weird something isn't right