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A Couple Questions... about Corn Snake Care/Feeding

DevXen
03-27-2005, 04:09 AM
hey.. i have a Red Corn Snake... and i'm rather new to snakes, other then the Garter snakes i cought when i was little, who would eat Feeder Fish... So having a Bigger snake that Eats Mice, is a little different.. this Snake is Full Grown, or nearly full grown, if indeed its not and i had a couple questions.. if anyone wanted to offer their advice or Suggestions.


1. The Snake was a bright Reddish Color when we got it.. about a month ago... now it seems to be a darker Brownish Red.. is that normal.. or?

2. some of his Scales seem to be Peeling, or Flaking off.. i noticed this a few days ago.. his eyes are'nt cloudy.. so i don't think he's gettin' ready to shed, even though he may be. ... Could be from the mice as well though.

3. The Snakes Bedding i'm using is Apen. it came Recommended from muti-Pet Stores. I hear that most Pet Stores are in fact wrong.. from looking stuff up, on the net. So i wanted to ask if this Aspen is in fact okay. because i hear Pine, is Toxic for Lizards/snakes. Esp. if they eat it. i Previously had the little pellet looking Recycled news paper.. in there... and that was okay i guess.. but with this aspen, it allows them to Dig tunnels through it.

4. i was Holding him today... i try to hold him alot so he can get used to me. and he kept trying to get away from me. but then he looked at my face, for a bit.. and Stuck his tongue out, as they often do.. and he did that a few times, so i did it back.. a Moment later, as if in a Split second he Stroke at my face. he did'nt get it. cuz i was holding him luckily he was'nt able to reach, i possibly could have lost an eye.. or.. more likely, gotten bitten on the Tongue, or nose. ... I'm curious if thats normal. or... does he just hate me?

5. This one i saved till last.. because.. i noticed it had been asked a few times before. and Seriously i did'nt want to Annoy anyone.. and its kinda related to The Previous Question (#4). You see my Snake won't eat. i can tell ya, he's in a 29 Gallon tank. the Temp. is 70-80 Degrees. I don't currently have an under Tank heater, though i plan on getting one.. i had recently lost my job. and Rent has to come First. But I do plan on getting one.. i have a Lamp on the top of it. shining down. And that has an Infra-red Bulb in it. (75 Watts/Heat-Glo).. i was told this would be Sufficent for the Size of tank. and that the snakes cannot see this light, so it would'nt bother them to have it on, 24 hours a day. I also bought the Night-Glo light (Moonlight Lamp). but its barely visable at all. so i rarely use it. The Snake has 2 Boxes i have in there, for the 'hides' they are cracker boxes.. we got. one on each side. the snake goes in there sometimes, Also i have Volcano the snake likes to go into as well.

Now.. I also have a Texas Rat Snake in there.. its about the same size.. and this snake also has not eaten in about a month. but he has eaten once since i got it. and this was before i got the Corn Snake. but has'nt since.

Also.. After i got the Corn Snake, I put two 'common' mice in the tank. and left them in there for about 2 weeks. then i went to the pet store i got the Corn Snake from to look around, and asked them. and they said.. no don't keep the Mice in the tank. as they can bite the Snake, and the Snake can get afraid of the mice. and never eat them again... So i'm kinda worried this may be the case...

i Did try to Dip the one mouse in Chicken Broth.. a site i read, said as a tip you can try to dip the mouse in broth. but it did'nt say what kind. and i tried putting it in a container. (1 Gallon ice Cream Bucket) with a hole in the top. so either snake could go in there. but after 2 days, neither did. not even with the Mouse dipped in Chicken Broth.. Another Thing I read, was to Cut open the Mouses head. and that sometimes works.. But the probblems with that is, 1. I don't know how i would kill the mouse. Drown it/Smack it upside the head with something hard... and the other of the questions... Even then, i don't want to kill the Mouse, if the Snake(s) still are not going to eat it.

So I just kinda don't know what to do. should I try out Pinky Mice. even though both these snakes are pretty much Full Grown. and it would take i don't know.. 10-20 Pinky Mice. Per Snake. or. is it Reasonable to think that since the Snakes won't eat the 2 mice i have now.. they won't eat any mice.

oh yeah... the mice, one is brown, and one is white. i hear sometimes the snakes can be Picky.

But is there any advice, or Suggestions, you guys could give me. .. if they indeed won't eat mice again, is there anything else, they would Eat?. cuz i really don't want them to Starve. ... Thnx

Any Help is Appriciated.

Joejr14
03-27-2005, 04:27 AM
Eh, I think this smells foul.

:slowly backs away:

DevXen
03-27-2005, 04:54 AM
*Shrug* What do ya mean Foul?


also sorry my initial post is so long.. it was just easier to keep typing, as i was thinking of what to type, then try to Seperate it into many Smaller Posts..

PtDnsr
03-27-2005, 07:33 AM
Oh boy...here we go. I'll try to answer some of your questions, others I won't touch because I don't feel I have the experience.

1. The Snake was a bright Reddish Color when we got it.. about a month ago... now it seems to be a darker Brownish Red.. is that normal.. or?
Snakes can get darker when they're going to shed soon. At least I have noticed that with my snakes.

2. some of his Scales seem to be Peeling, or Flaking off.. i noticed this a few days ago.. his eyes are'nt cloudy.. so i don't think he's gettin' ready to shed, even though he may be. ... Could be from the mice as well though.
This could be because he's going to shed. If not you might want to check your husbandry to make sure everything is ok.

3. The Snakes Bedding i'm using is Apen. it came Recommended from muti-Pet Stores. I hear that most Pet Stores are in fact wrong.. from looking stuff up, on the net. So i wanted to ask if this Aspen is in fact okay. because i hear Pine, is Toxic for Lizards/snakes. Esp. if they eat it. i Previously had the little pellet looking Recycled news paper.. in there... and that was okay i guess.. but with this aspen, it allows them to Dig tunnels through it.
Aspen is what I have heard most people recommend and what I would recommend. It's easy, clean, and cheap. My snakes love to dig through it.

4. i was Holding him today... i try to hold him alot so he can get used to me. and he kept trying to get away from me. but then he looked at my face, for a bit.. and Stuck his tongue out, as they often do.. and he did that a few times, so i did it back.. a Moment later, as if in a Split second he Stroke at my face. he did'nt get it. cuz i was holding him luckily he was'nt able to reach, i possibly could have lost an eye.. or.. more likely, gotten bitten on the Tongue, or nose. ... I'm curious if thats normal. or... does he just hate me?
I'm not sure on this one, it could be because you scared him somehow but I'm really not sure. Probably getting used to you.


5. This one i saved till last.. because.. i noticed it had been asked a few times before. and Seriously i did'nt want to Annoy anyone.. and its kinda related to The Previous Question (#4). You see my Snake won't eat. i can tell ya, he's in a 29 Gallon tank. the Temp. is 70-80 Degrees. I don't currently have an under Tank heater, though i plan on getting one.. i had recently lost my job. and Rent has to come First. But I do plan on getting one.. i have a Lamp on the top of it. shining down. And that has an Infra-red Bulb in it. (75 Watts/Heat-Glo).. i was told this would be Sufficent for the Size of tank. and that the snakes cannot see this light, so it would'nt bother them to have it on, 24 hours a day. I also bought the Night-Glo light (Moonlight Lamp). but its barely visable at all. so i rarely use it. The Snake has 2 Boxes i have in there, for the 'hides' they are cracker boxes.. we got. one on each side. the snake goes in there sometimes, Also i have Volcano the snake likes to go into as well.
UTH is better because lights can dry the tank out and lower the moisture level. If you think your snake is goign to shed mist the tank once or twice a day depending on how dry the tank is. You can get inexpensive temperature guns (I forget where) to help you figure out the exact temperatures of your cage as well.

As for the rest of it. I wouldn't put the snakes together at all. It will stress them both out. I also wouldn't feed live mice. F/T is much easier and safer for the snake. No need to worry about the snake being scratched or bit by a f/t mouse. I'd definately separate permanently though and at least for feeding - you don't want them to become aggressive. As I said before, this is mostly my opinion - although I hope others would agree on some of it. Hope I helped a bit!

~Katie

oldhand
03-27-2005, 09:56 AM
1) sounds normal to me, s/he may be going into shed.

2) Again could be a shed coming on, but more likley the humidity is zero, up it slightley so the skin doesn't dry out and make sure he has fress water at least every other day, with dailly highley recomended.

3) Aspen is like god to a religious person, the best thing out their, but i would recomend the shredded aspen apposed to the other variant's, thats a personal thing though.

4) Any snake will strike at you. Did you give him at least 3 days tosettle in with 5 or 7 prefered? if you did then it's just an adjustment thing and he will settle with time. If you didn't start from scatch and give him a full 5 days to settle and only go in to change the water.

5) Don't house a corn snake with anything other then a corn, and even then i would advise against it.
Heating wise UTH is the best heating mathod as corn snakes (like most snakes) need belly heat to thermoregulate.

As you said the snake hasn't eaten i would also wait now till next weekend and try an appropriate size meal, you said the snake was almost fully grown, so why not try a couple of small mice or a small-medium sized mouse and then take it from their.

JTGoff69
03-27-2005, 11:55 AM
First, how old/big is the snake?

More than likely, it's ready to shed and the color will dull when that is imminent. As for the mice doing it, I'll address that further down.


Aspen is tried and true, and most keepers on this forum use it.


I would definitely scrap the light and get a proper sized UTH. If he's in an aquatic 29gal tank, the heat is probably not reaching the bottom of the tank. And improper heat is one reason snakes wont eat. Belly heat aids digestion as well. When you say the temp is 70-80, do you mean the whole tank varies or is that the cool side/warm side temps?

Remove the Texas Rat. If, in fact, these are both full grown snakes, that tank is way too small for both of them, and it's not recommended to keep two in the same tank anyway. It, as well as the corn, are probably stressed at having to share the same living space, and with only two hides, there is nowhere to escape the other. Another reason they may not be eating.


NEVER leave live mice unattended in your snake's tank! If left in there with no food of their own, they can, and will, attack and mutilate your snake. And yes, the snake can be traumatized to the point of never taking that prey item again. You may have to switch to rat pups, different color mice, gerbils, etc. Feeding frozen/thawed mice when snakes get past the pinky/fuzzy mouse stage is the way to go to avoid any risk of injury. Feed your snake in a separate container as well so it does not risk injesting any of the aspen.


Don't try pinky mice. Wait a few days to a week after you separate the snakes and try a frozen/thawed adult mouse. Thaw it in warm water and feed it while still warm in the feeding container. If possible, leave it and the snake alone in the feeding container overnight if it doesn't eat right away. This gives the snake nothing to concentrate on but the mouse.

CAV
03-27-2005, 02:24 PM
Most of your questions are easy to answer and are commonly included on most breeders care sheets. I'd suggest starting there. (I have one on my website if you'll follow the link in my signature.)

1. Sound like your snake is about to shed, based on the description.

2. The temps are too cold if they are in fact accurate. Incorrect environmental conditions suppress feeding responses as does shedding.

3. Two adult snakes in the same enclosure isn't a good idea, especially when they are different species.

4. Throwing mice into a cage is moire likely triggering stress than a feeding response. This is especially true if your snakes are used to eating pre-killed rodents. What was the previous owner feeding them?

5. Aspen isn't pine.

DevXen
03-27-2005, 07:47 PM
2) Again could be a shed coming on, but more likley the humidity is zero, up it slightley so the skin doesn't dry out and make sure he has fress water at least every other day, with dailly highley recomended.

I have a Spray Bottle.. in fact, i Sprayed the texas Rat snake down, pretty good the day i got him.. cuz he bit me.. and i could'nt believe he had bitten me. ... but how much should i spray in the tank.. do ya think?


5) Don't house a corn snake with anything other then a corn, and even then i would advise against it.
Heating wise UTH is the best heating mathod as corn snakes (like most snakes) need belly heat to thermoregulate.

I'm gonna have to wait till I get another tank to Seperate 'em. i do have a 5 gallon tank.. might work for feeding Purposes. but not much more then that, i'd think. also... they were Inter-Twined togeather, for awhile..


First, how old/big is the snake?

The Pet Store Told me, it was nearly full grown. if not full grown. I've no Idea on Age.. i'd say. 4-5 Feet long. on a Guestimate.


I would definitely scrap the light and get a proper sized UTH. If he's in an aquatic 29gal tank, the heat is probably not reaching the bottom of the tank. And improper heat is one reason snakes wont eat. Belly heat aids digestion as well. When you say the temp is 70-80, do you mean the whole tank varies or is that the cool side/warm side temps?

i have a Temp Guage on the top portion of the tank, on the Oposite side of the Lamp. .. and When i went to bed last night it was 83 Degrees, when i woke up today, it was like 72 Degrees..... I'd Just Recently moved the tank into my Front Room, out of my bedroom. (the bedroom is alot colder then the rest of the Apt.. so i thought i'd move them out to the front room, to get warmer)... now as per getting an UTH.. i do plan on getting one.. i've actually just recently lost my job.. but i do have Gift Certificates for www.giftcertificates.com. and my G/F pointed out the other day that PetCo, is on it. so i'll prolly get one that way. (dunno how long it'll take for them to mail the actuall Certificate out though)


Remove the Texas Rat. If, in fact, these are both full grown snakes, that tank is way too small for both of them, and it's not recommended to keep two in the same tank anyway. It, as well as the corn, are probably stressed at having to share the same living space, and with only two hides, there is nowhere to escape the other. Another reason they may not be eating.

I did'nt even think, this might be a reason, for them not eating. they do have the 2 Boxes for hides, and a Vocano. the Texas Rat snake likes to go in.. and also. i have the Aspen prolly 4 inches high.. there's alot in there.. so they like to dig, and hide under the Aspen alot.


NEVER leave live mice unattended in your snake's tank! If left in there with no food of their own, they can, and will, attack and mutilate your snake. And yes, the snake can be traumatized to the point of never taking that prey item again. You may have to switch to rat pups, different color mice, gerbils, etc. Feeding frozen/thawed mice when snakes get past the pinky/fuzzy mouse stage is the way to go to avoid any risk of injury. Feed your snake in a separate container as well so it does not risk injesting any of the aspen.

See I was'nt told this, at first, so there were 2 mice in the tank with the Snakes for probbably 2 weeks.... Wonderin' if thats where the issues with the Corn Snake's Scales are from.. I am going to try out F/T's mice.. on monday. and even then, i can try cutting the head open.. as i was told, works sometimes.



2. The temps are too cold if they are in fact accurate. Incorrect environmental conditions suppress feeding responses as does shedding.

Yeah i was reading this.. thus the reason i brought the tank out from our bedroom to the front room (as mentioned above).. my only real fear now.. is our 3 cats can get to the tank.. and 'annoy' the Snakes. or even if the snakes are crowling accross the top of tank.. around the edges of the lid.. the one cat we have that's not declawed yet.. might be able to Claw at it. .. so thats a fear, while we sleep. cuz the Cover of the tank, is a lockable Screen. heck, if all 3 cats jumped on it, it might even fall through.

*All i could find is this Plastic/Screen Cover.. unlike the Metal one, i have for my Trianchula i got a few years ago*

4. Throwing mice into a cage is moire likely triggering stress than a feeding response. This is especially true if your snakes are used to eating pre-killed rodents. What was the previous owner feeding them?

as of lately i been putting the mice in the tank.. for awhile. keeping an eye on 'em.. and then taking them out, after awhile.. Both Snakes.. were Previously fed live mice. or at least as I was told anyhow.


5. Aspen isn't pine.

No.. its not Pine, but I thought i read somewhere, that all Woods have Toxins in them. and can be harmful if accidently eaten by Lizards/Snakes... Pine is just moreso Toxic then most of them.. as per what i've read, anyhow..



i wanted to thank you all, for your help so far... its Greatly appriciated.
i just want my Snakes to be happy and heathly.


Also i have a pretty big Water bowl in the tank.. but i don't think its quite big enough for them to coil up in. .. i'm still trying to find a bowl big enough for them.. i have that 1 gallon Ice Cream Bucket. but that i would think, would be too big.

JTGoff69
03-27-2005, 08:31 PM
i have a Temp Guage on the top portion of the tank, on the Oposite side of the Lamp. .. and When i went to bed last night it was 83 Degrees, when i woke up today, it was like 72 Degrees.....


You need to measure the temp on the top of the substrate under the lamp since that is your "warm" side right now, and the temp of the substrate is what your snake is actually feeling. Those would be good for the warm and cool side temps if that's what they read.

No.. its not Pine, but I thought i read somewhere, that all Woods have Toxins in them. and can be harmful if accidently eaten by Lizards/Snakes... Pine is just moreso Toxic then most of them.. as per what i've read, anyhow..

Pine and cedar are toxic to snakes. Aspen is not, but could cause impaction if ingested, hence feeding in a separate container.

You wont be able to fit a water bowl they can soak in in that tank, and they rarely soak unless something is wrong. A gentle mist every day during the week they are shedding should be enough.

Sabine66
03-28-2005, 08:52 PM
I feel the same way like Joejr14. Are these real questions?

DevXen
03-29-2005, 04:09 AM
I feel the same way like Joejr14. Are these real questions?

Why would'nt they be Real?

And... today i got a Frozen mouse... thawed it out.. and put the Corn Snake in my Only other tank. to try to eat he.. he pushed it around, a lil bit, and an hour later, i decided he was'nt going to eat.. so then i put the dead mouse... in the Hide the Texas Rat Snake is in.. to try to see if he would eat it.

Joejr14
03-29-2005, 04:26 AM
Why would'nt they be Real?

And... today i got a Frozen mouse... thawed it out.. and put the Corn Snake in my Only other tank. to try to eat he.. he pushed it around, a lil bit, and an hour later, i decided he was'nt going to eat.. so then i put the dead mouse... in the Hide the Texas Rat Snake is in.. to try to see if he would eat it.

Because we have recently had a steady stream of trolls who have done similar things with asking very similar questions.

This post smelled just like one of those posts which is why I didnt want to touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Not to be rude, but why would you get another snake if you didnt have the proper setup or space for another snake? You have to realize that two adult snakes in a 29 gallon tank doesn't look right, right? A 29 gallon tank isn't that big, and I know two 4 foot corns in there would be very cramped. I mean, this is like me asking why my 6 foot corn doesn't seem happy in his 10 gallon tank.

Most will tell you it's best not to re-use prey items that one snake has decided not to eat. That's probably a moot point since you didnt quarantine your new snake, soooo............did the texas rat eat the mouse?

DevXen
03-29-2005, 05:59 AM
Not to be rude, but why would you get another snake if you didnt have the proper setup or space for another snake? You have to realize that two adult snakes in a 29 gallon tank doesn't look right, right? A 29 gallon tank isn't that big, and I know two 4 foot corns in there would be very cramped. I mean, this is like me asking why my 6 foot corn doesn't seem happy in his 10 gallon tank.

To be honest. The Pet Store i got them from, had each of them in 10 gallon Tanks. (As with all their Snakes). So I figured a 29 Gallon, would be more then enough. and Previously. back in 1999. i had like 6 Garter Snakes.. in a 5 Gallon Seemless tank. they lived in there, for about 6 months.. just fine.. Until I got the 29 Gallon, from my brother, then i put them in there, where they stayed okay, for about another 9 months. .. so I figured it'd be more then enough.. i guess i can't help it, i was'nt Properly Educated.. but thats what Living in Utah, does to ya, i guess.


[qutoe] Most will tell you it's best not to re-use prey items that one snake has decided not to eat. That's probably a moot point since you didnt quarantine your new snake, soooo............did the texas rat eat the mouse? [/quote]

Actually he has'nt yet... and i dunno how long, i should leave in in there. my G/F said to just leave it in, over night. but i'll prolly take it out of the tank before we goto bed and throw it away, or something... also i did put the Corn Snake in a different tank, to try to eat the mouse, but he did'nt. let him in there, for about an hour. and he did push it around a bit. but wold'nt eat it.


and i don't mind seperating 'em.. i just don't have cash for another tank, until i can find another job. i've been looking for about 3 weeks, its just not always so easy. .. but i saw one just today.. another 29 Gallon tank, for $80. So i'll prolly get one of those, when I can.... I first gotta get a UTH though.

Vicki M
03-29-2005, 09:15 AM
TBH i cannot believe what I am reading. You should really have done some reasearch before getting these snakes. But as you have asked the q's I will try my best to help you out.

Without trying to aswer all your question I would advise that you seperate these snakes immediately. You have 2 different species in together which are more than likely stressing each other out and this is what is causing your feeding problems. There is a high chance that one of these snakes will attack the other very soon. Both snakes will be getting very stressed out. If you cannot afford another tank then take one snake back to the shop, most (well the ones where I live) will offer a minding service for a very small price. Please, please do not ignore this advice as soon you cold be looking at only having 1 snake, a very fat one!

You must also realise that most pet stores will house snakes in an enclosure that is too small. This is because they are housing them for a short time until they are sold and most (not all) stores have profit as their main priority, not the snakes welfare.

IMO you should not need to spray viv snake if the environment is right. You should have a water bowl in the viv which is large enough for you snake to fit in, if they are having problems shedding they will usually soak themselves. If you notice that it is coming off in bits then you can put in a box with a hole either side with some wet moss in the bottom. Spraying the viv may cause bacteria to grow. If you do spray 2-3 squirts on the warm side is sufficient.

As far as the feeding goes, feed thawed frozen mice. Keep offering the same size but only offer once a week. If they dont eat it within 2hours take it out. And ALWAYS feed them in seperate enclosures.

May I also suggest that you buy a copy of 'The Corn Snake Manual' by Bill and Kathy Love (available from amazon or their site).

I would also suggest that you keep the questions coming and we will all do our best to help you out as I think now you have got these snake you need to learn a lot and quick before something bad happens.

Sabine66
03-29-2005, 11:11 AM
Sorry, that I thought your questions were not 'real'. I thought someone was playing a joke with these questions. I just thought that most people would educate themselves before getting a pet (any kind). I am a new snake owner but have read everything I could (and lots on this site) before I got the snake. I am glad you found this site, there are so many experts here!
Good luck!

DevXen
03-30-2005, 06:20 PM
Again, thank you all for your help...

I should have the UTH in about 7 days... i'm getting a Gift Certificate mailed to me... i'll also go buy a few more Temp Guages as well.. so i can put one, on the bottom, of each side of the tank.


Also, I went into the pet shop last night, that I got the Corn Snake from.. and they told me, they put it in a bucket with the Mouse, and put it in the dark... so I got a bucket last night, and tried that... it still did'nt eat... gonna try that with the Texas Rat Snake today...


Also.. My G/F was looking in a CornSnake care book.. and in there it said something about.. Corn Snakes, and Rat Snakes. being the Same kind of Snake.
Obviously the rat Snakes don't have the 'V' on their head.. but other then that, the book said they were the same. *Shrug*

DevXen
03-31-2005, 01:12 AM
Wahoo.. my Texas Rat Snake ate... i put him in the bucket... and left it in the dark closet, for about an hour and a half.. went to check, and the mouse was gone.. and he had a big bump in his belly.. i'm happy.. now i gotta get the Corn Snake to eat... however, i went to pick him up today... to try putting him in the bucket to eat *Again, thats what the Pet Store said they did*... and i noticed the black spots on his underside.. look gray.. so i'm pretty sure, he's gettin' ready to shed.... so i'll wait a bit on that.



again, thank you all for your help and advice.

Kaylee-Jay
04-14-2006, 06:12 PM
to be honest mate, you dont seem to have researched much into snakes before you got one. im new to all this and i havent even got my snake yet and im already checking things out and have signed up here. Ive literally signed up here about 3 hours ago and already ive learnt so much.

Cycal
04-14-2006, 08:55 PM
DevXen...

I hate to sound like a wet blanket, but my recomendation would be to take your corn back to the petstore where you bought and ask for a refund, and spend that money on your rat snake's (i am unclear if you had the rat snake before you bought the corn snake) husbandry supplies.

If you have no money to buy an UTH, a decent temperature gauge, or a seperate enclosure, then you are putting the animals life at risk. Your bills may come first, but your Texas rat snake is not going to to care if it should decide to eat your corn. Its also not going to care about your bills when it regurges from stress because it has a meal/predator/mate less then a foot away, 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
The mice arnt going to care about your bills either when they decide to maul the corn and/or the rat snake because they too are frightened and hungry.


Imagine you have been sentenced for life to jail, and you are cell mates with a possible cannibal/rapist, and instead of feeding you properly, they threw live chickens in there with you.

Its our job as pet owners to be guardians to our pets. What may seem neat and cool now to us, may mean a life time (and very often, a short one) of chaos and fear.

Do your snake a favor... Do your homework, save up some money, and do it right.

Lennycorn
04-14-2006, 09:04 PM
I did'nt read the whole thread so....Here's a link from the Duke of url's

Husbandry and such
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28341
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28342
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17224
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sh...?p=133428#post6

Diseases and health
http://www.herpvetconnection.com/
http://www.reptilia.org/News/salmonella.htm
http://biology.kenyon.edu/slonc/bio...rypto.htm#trans
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sh...ighlight=nix%2A
http://coloherp.org/cb-news/Vol-28/...SnakeMites.html
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sh...ight=jello+butt

Free Herp Software
http://www.serpwidgets.com/Apps/apps.html
http://www.proherp.com/
Setup
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/t.../bltanksize.htm
http://www.mgreptiles.com/VIROSAN.html
http://www.anapsid.org/blacklight.html
http://arbreptiles.com/cages/flexwire.shtml
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19168

Miscellaneous
http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/
http://www.moreptiles.com/cornsnake-lifecycle.htm
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sh...17&page=1&pp=10

Cohabitation
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17308
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31192

On-line frozen mice suppliers
http://www.themousefactory.com/
http://cajunmice.com/
http://www.rodentpro.com/index.asp
http://www.bigcheeserodents.com/
http://www.americanrodent.com/htm/mice.html
http://peticebox.com/

BeckyG
04-14-2006, 09:36 PM
to be honest mate, you dont seem to have researched much into snakes before you got one. im new to all this and i havent even got my snake yet and im already checking things out and have signed up here. Ive literally signed up here about 3 hours ago and already ive learnt so much.

Ummm

This thread was started over a year ago...I'm sure he's resolved whatever problems he's had by now.

I hate to sound like a wet blanket, but my recomendation would be to take your corn back to the petstore where you bought and ask for a refund, and spend that money on your rat snake's (i am unclear if you had the rat snake before you bought the corn snake) husbandry supplies.

I don't think the store would give a refund after a year.

Lennycorn
04-14-2006, 10:11 PM
Ummm

This thread was started over a year ago...I'm sure he's resolved whatever problems he's had by now.

Boy, I missed that completely. Duh....