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Regurge or not?

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 10:51 AM
I wonder if anyone can help me with this?

Drake was fed with a fuzzy for the first time on Sunday night. He had been getting 2 pinkys once a week for the past few weeks.
With the 2 pinkys he was out and about cruising his tank the next day, with barely a bulge.
Since having the fuzzy he has been hiding on the warm side ever since eating. Temps are 70 on the cool side and 82 on the warm side.
Last night (Wednesday) he was out looking around his tank, and did not have an obvious lump. We have not handled him since before he fed.
This morning I found what looks like a really skinny mouse in his tank-you can still see the tail. It basically looks like an empty mouse skin. There was no smell from it at all. I took some pics in the hope someone can tell me if it's a regurge or not.
I'm thinking the best thing to do is treat it as a regurge and not feed him for 10 days, but I would appreciate some advice :cheers:

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6974/pict12648hm.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1849/pict12650pk.jpg

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 11:26 AM
The other thing I was wondering about was when to handle him.
Should I be leaving him alone until he has fed a few times with no regurges?
If that's the case it could be a few weeks till we can have him out. :cry:

Roy Munson
12-01-2005, 11:58 AM
The fact that it didn't stink is strange, because it sure looks like a regurge. The fact that it followed the first offering of the next prey size would seem to indicate a regurge. I'd give him the ten days to recuperate, then I would offer him a single pink. If he keeps that down, give him two pinks for the next feeding. How much does he weigh? He may be too small to move to fuzzies yet. If you don't know his weight, maybe you can post a pic of him with a reference object.

And I wouldn't handle him until he has digested his first meal after the ten-day wait.

Baba-Lou
12-01-2005, 01:39 PM
Thats deffinatly a regurged mouse alright. BUt to be safe do what Dean suggested. Just looking at it you can tell how Snakes esophogus and stomach are. Mice usually get pretty elongated going in and down. Amazing how their skin can manage to stay in one piece (not at all like the pinks in town here, that practically fall apart when you pull them out of the water and dry them off :-puke01: ).

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 01:53 PM
Thanks

I kind of thought it was a regurge, but had read on this forum that it smelled really bad, and this thing had no smell, which confused me a bit!

I have not weighed him, and unfortunately have no pictures other than eating ones or ones in which he is being held.
I took a pic when he was nearly done eating the fuzzy, I think it looked at the upper size of 1.5 times his width at the widest part

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/801/copyofpict12575nz.jpg

Dminor9
12-01-2005, 02:38 PM
I was curious about the pic. It looks to me like your snake already has a bulge in the body part to the right of it's head. So I was wondering if your snake had not properly digested his last meal. Maybe it is just the angle of the pic, but that is the way it looks to me. Anyone else see this or is it just me?

Roy Munson
12-01-2005, 02:48 PM
I was curious about the pic. It looks to me like your snake already has a bulge in the body part to the right of it's head. So I was wondering if your snake had not properly digested his last meal. Maybe it is just the angle of the pic, but that is the way it looks to me. Anyone else see this or is it just me?

It's not just you. It's the first thing I noticed, even before I saw your reply. Looks like he already had two semi-distinct prey items in him.

Llewella
12-01-2005, 04:10 PM
Anyone else see this or is it just me?

Nope, that was my thought also.

How many days were there between the 2 pinkies and the fuzzy?
I think he was still digesting his previous meal.

2i2_D3gr33s
12-01-2005, 04:41 PM
She did say that she used to feed 2 pinkies....maybe this is an older pic and he's having his dessert?

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 04:42 PM
I think it's just the way he was sitting in his feeding tank-it was 7 days from the 2 pinkies to the fuzzy

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 04:44 PM
and that pic was eating his 1st fuzzy

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 04:50 PM
Here he is starting out with the fuzzy-he went for it at a funny angle and ended up with legs sticking out all ways!

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/7343/copyofpict12485bm.th.jpg (http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofpict12485bm.jpg)

Pinklady
12-01-2005, 04:52 PM
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/7343/copyofpict12485bm.jpg

Sorry-posted wrong sized image!

Roy Munson
12-01-2005, 05:23 PM
I think it's just the way he was sitting in his feeding tank-it was 7 days from the 2 pinkies to the fuzzy

I don't think his swollen midsection in that pic is the result of a camera angle, or resting position. I'm not saying that there weren't 7 days between, but that snake's got something fairly large inside it.

Pinklady
12-03-2005, 02:03 PM
I've been away a couple of days

He doesn't seem to have pooed for a while-I went in to spot clean the tanks today and his is clear. Is it possible he's bunged up?
He is not nearly as active as usual either-I only see him out at night, before the regurge he was out and cruising loads.
It has been cold weather, and the house temps are colder than normal, but the tank temps seem ok and has been in the hide on the cool side. While he was digesting the fuzzy he was mainly on the warm side.
Another question about the regurge-will he have got any goodness from the fuzzy at all-when it came up it was skinny, so I wonder if he gets any nutrients from the stuff that didn't come up?