Greeness!

[Pet Corn Snake]

Well, my snake is a "Amel" corn and well you know okeetee's have black around there orangy red saddles and reverse have white on theres, well mines got green, i don't know if this is part of his coloring or if its a problem! here is a pic its blurry, the first one is, and ill edit the second one to show you : )

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7886/photo0271zo7.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1527/editedfa2.jpg

[TheHated]

Hmm that is odd... yet cool. Congrats?

[connord94]

I can see white "bits" that may be spacing in between the scales, which normally means the snake is obese, but the pic is that blurry I can hardly tell.

[Lennycorn]

You do need to get better picture tho.

[diamondlil]

Depending on the lighting, my Reverse Okeetee (Amel with thick white borders) shows greenish or peachy tints which are perfectly normal, and this shows really well if I can get a ventral shot of him.

[Pet Corn Snake]

well it said on his label he was an "amel, okeetee, reverse okeetee" mabie hes just a reverse?

[Pet Corn Snake]

just did a little googling and on this forum a long time ago a person called ChaosCat also made a similar thread claiming her/his corn has lime green in it too and she said it was the coloring mabie its the same situation ?

[diamondlil]

If he is , then his borders should be as thick as possible, like this (am about to show off!) :grin01:

[Pet Corn Snake]

I'am really starting to think he is an reverse okeetee, there are many situations on google of reserves born with "lime green" or "really dark green" rims to there saddle

[Pet Corn Snake]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9360/photo0264gy3.jpg

See the rims on his saddle? well after looking all over i cant find one amel that looks like mine? can you? i think he defentally is a reverse, : ) umm what you think ?

[diamondlil]

I think I can't wait to see post-shed pics! That is one very nice snake even in blue!

[Jay@PJCReptiles]

Hi Janine,
I think it has to do with the Amel gene. As in the case of Snows there is a variety of them. The Amel gene will make white and also some pinks, greens, or both where you think the white should be. As you know, the Amel gene removes/reduces any Black pigments from the snake and the pinks and greens are the residual colorings left behind. Depends from snake to snake what colors they may throw. That is one nice Reverse, huge thick borders. Hope this helps.
Jay & PJ :cool:

[Pet Corn Snake]

well thanks for the help! so is mine a reverse then?

[Lore]

well thanks for the help! so is mine a reverse then?

No. Reverse Okeetee's would have much thicker borders, calling an Amel with thin white borders a Reverse Okeetee is like those that call their "Normal" an Okeetee.

If it were me, I'd rather have a great example of an Amel, rather than a POOR example of a Reverse Okeetee.

I sold this female as an Amel... by some standards she could pass as a Reverse Okeetee... I dont think she's got thick enough borders, thus she was sold as a nice looking Amel. :cheers:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/silentlore/IMG_3343.jpg

[diamondlil]

Yup, I'm with Lore on this, I think yours is more of a very nicely marked amel, George. Reverse Okeetee is a line-bred version of the same thing, Bribarian's Flames is a spectacular example of an r o.

[Jessicat]

Sorry, but I'm going to have to third the above. Your amel look nice and bright even in your dull pictures, but in the full body shot it doesn't even look like s/he has borders at all.

Here's an example of a Reverse Okeetee. The borders don't have to be THIS thick, but I like them to be. =)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/justanotherhominid/Snakes%20and%20Feeders/cottonmouthfullbody.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/justanotherhominid/Snakes%20and%20Feeders/cottonmouth.jpg

The yellow/green shade in the white borders might be similar to the way different snows fill in with yellows, pinks, and sometimes greens. I've seen pictures of Reverse Okeetees who's white borders look kinda yellowish tinted.

[Susan]

Again, classifying a particular snake as an Okeetee or reverse Okeetee is a judgement call in some cases. True, the ideals of both have large white borders, but where do you make the distinction as to what is a wide border and what is not? If you read what the books say these morphs are supposed to look like, the coloration of the saddles and ground color play an important part as well. IMO, Lore's lovely amel fits the description of a reverse Okeetee. A post-shed photo of Pet Corn Snake's amel will better determine if it is a RO or not. And, no offense Diamondlil, but even though your amel has nice wide borders, the ground color is a bit lacking in color to be an excellent example of a RO...IMO. GiantBlueberry, we have to see how the ground color in your little amel comes in to make a final determination as to the RO status.

But again, let me reiterate, "To Each His Own" and "Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder".

And back to the original question...as it's been mentioned, the green cast to the borders of your amel are normal. It is the same sort of coloration that makes the green-blotched snows what they are. My line of amel zigzags also have that green color.

[Pet Corn Snake]

thank you for all your help :)

[diamondlil]

No offense taken, Susan, I agree Slim hasn't colored up like I had hoped he would!

[Lore]

Sorry, but I'm going to have to third the above. Your amel look nice and bright even in your dull pictures, but in the full body shot it doesn't even look like s/he has borders at all.

Here's an example of a Reverse Okeetee. The borders don't have to be THIS thick, but I like them to be. =)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/justanotherhominid/Snakes%20and%20Feeders/cottonmouthfullbody.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/justanotherhominid/Snakes%20and%20Feeders/cottonmouth.jpg

The yellow/green shade in the white borders might be similar to the way different snows fill in with yellows, pinks, and sometimes greens. I've seen pictures of Reverse Okeetees who's white borders look kinda yellowish tinted.

:bang: :eek1: OMG! I NEED that snake!!! :grin01: I gotta get a pair that looks JUST like that one :crazy02:

[BeckyG]

Here's an example of a Reverse Okeetee. The borders don't have to be THIS thick, but I like them to be. =)


Would you like a little saddle with your borders? :crazy02: