I'm very frustrated.

[Eriathiel]

So, my snow motley Nike, regurged. I'm really getting really frustrated with her. She won't grow, no matter what I try! I finally got her taking double pinks a while back, and I finally got her up to fuzzies, no problem. She has taken one fuzzy at each meal a couple times, and this time shouldn't have been any different - but she regurged. AHHHHH. All my other snakes are growing like weeds.... I don't know. I just don't know what to do with her. Temps are perfect, Humidity is perfect, and nothing happened. Nothing bothered her. She's a late '06 and is only 25 grams. She was 17 when I got her last spring, and she's never refused to eat... it just doesn't go anywhere. I've got her on the Munson Plan.

Anyone have any thoughts?

[Mdralston]

Have you tried dusting her food with snakey vitamines? Or adding some to her water?

[Roy Munson]

Temps are perfect...
There really is no such thing as perfect temps. The temps one corn thrives at may be unsuitable for another. It's frustrating to figure out. When I have a slow grower, I try different things, usually with temps. I've had some (even hatchlings) that didn't do well in the no-gradient, relatively warm (~85*) conditions that most young snakes thrive at, and they turned around when they were placed in lower temp, full-gradient conditions (~82* warm/~75* cool). Then I've had some (even yearlings) that didn't do well in the cooler, full-gradient conditions, and took off when they were placed in no-gradient, warmer conditions. :shrugs:

Good luck!

[Susielea]

How about using some nutribac to see if that will help her digestion and going back to multiple small feed items, instead of a single larger food item?

I'm sure there's someone else on here that has a snake that just will not tolerate larger prey items....maybe Nanci or MegF?....and they just feed multiple smaller prey.

Hope it all works out well for you and Nike.

Best wishes,

[Rich in KY]

I think Dean may have something. One of my girls went through a few regurges this past fall. The warm temp was around 86*. I lowered it to 82* and haven't had a regurge since. You may try something like that.

Then like Susie said, I would stick to small meals for a while. There is no rush to make her grow. And if you aren't already, maybe start slitting her meals.

Good luck with whatever you try. Keep us updated.

[abell82]

Ever had a fecal exam done? Just because it's a
captive bred animal, does not mean it
doesn't have parasites. (Though I am not saying she does.)
It may not hurt to have her checked, just to be sure.

[TWGarland]

Do you snip the backs of your mice?

Theres a good thread on here somewhere about the benfits of making small cuts on the back of the mice, about increasing surface area to volume ratios, making for better digestion :shrugs:

[Eriathiel]

Thanks everyone for the advice - I will try lowering her temps a little bit to see if that helps. And no I don't slit the backs for the mice, I hadn't thought of that, its another thing to try! I might have a fecal done - thats not a bad idea...

Thank you Thank you Thank you. I think from here I'm going to go back to double pinks for a little while, and then see how things go from there!

[Gralena]

I have a little guy (only 10g) that had some trouble for awhile, not gaining weight and had a regurge....I followed the regurge plan and started slitting backs. I really feel like this helps, as he started gaining weight each week and no more regurges.

[Nanci]

I slit everything, even Big Jake's mice. http://tinyurl.com/su6em

I have several snakes that eat prey smaller than the Munson plan says, although they are kings/milks/hoggies. They are 200 gram snakes eating hoppers, weekly, and often Choco eats a couple fuzzies instead.

My regurger, Maizey, has less of a chance of regurging if I feed two small prey items. Maizey is about 350 grams, and is currently eating two rat pinks, once a week. (Like big fuzzies). Maizey is staying at a steady weight on that amount, and isn't thin, although he isn't a fat blob either.

The two CB snakes I tested for parasites both had them.

Good luck.