2009 Hatchlings (Sunglow Motley-Stripe)

[Pasodama]

These babies were born on the 11th/12th of May (2009).
From the pairing of a Sunglow Stripe, to a Sunglow Motley, the babies are Sunglow Motley-Stripes (Motley pattern / het for both Motley and Stripe)
They have just had their first sheds between the 18th & 20th (photos taken on the 19th & 20th).
Some have, already, had their first meals and the rest should, soon, follow.
Each baby (a total of 15) have their individual photos (2 pics of each) in separate posts... starting with Baby number 1.

Edit: The 3rd photo, of the babies, is after their 2nd shed.
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Sunglow Cube Stripe #1:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #2:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Motley-Stripe #3:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Motley-Stripe #4:

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #5:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #6:

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #7:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Motley-Stripe #8:

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Sunglow Motley-Stripe #9:

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Sunglow Motley-Stripe #10:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Motley-Stripe #11:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #12:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-12-09)

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #13:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #14:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

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Sunglow Cube Stripe #15:
- 3rd photo is after 2nd shed (taken on 07-09-09)

[MedusaCorns]

All are so bright and pretty. I love #15,12 & 5 :)

Congrats of a great clutch!! :cheers:

[ArpeggioAngel]

They are beautiful Deb! Congrats on a fabulous clutch!

[Pasodama]

Thanks, Christine & Katie.:)

[a_god_s]

#2!!! #2!! (ok I realize how bad that sounds) but that's a keeper for sure!!

Great looking bunch!!! Congrats on the little ones!!

[b8g8]

Stunning! Truly stunning.

[stephen]

Some are motleys and some are stripes?
They all look nice and red!

[Pasodama]

Thanks, Dee, b8g8, and Stephen.:)

#2!!! #2!! (ok I realize how bad that sounds) but that's a keeper for sure!!

LOL!
Actually, #2 is one that I plan on holding back. At this time, I believe hold backs are going to be #2, #7, #10, #12, and #14. When a wee older, I will decide which, of those, I will be keeping and which ones I will sell.
All others will be leaving, &/or will be for sale, very soon.

Some are motleys and some are stripes?

None are Striped.
Some are of a more classic Motley pattern. Others have the Motley pattern (circles, ovals, &/or "striped Motley" patterning), at the fore, but somewhat "aberrant(?)", if not broken up - stretched - &/or "disappearing", patterning in the latter half ... and a couple/few have an almost "cubed" appearance in the latter portion of their bodies.
All have plain, unpatterned, ventrums.
The mother is a Sunglow Motley and the father is a Sunglow Stripe. Thus, while the babies have a Motley phenotype (Motley phenotype expected from the cross of a Motley to a Stripe), in all actuality they are het for both Motley and Stripe.

[animalhouse]

Wow, I LOVE Them! Absolutely Stunning!

[Eli173]

Congrats on the clutch! Those are some awsome hatchlings.

[vetusvates]

Very beautiful. I love the patterns and colors. I would be hard-pressed to part with any of them.

[Pasodama]

Thanks, animalhouse, Eli173, and Eric.:)

Am really looking forward to all of them having their second sheds (if they are, all, still here by then).

I would be hard-pressed to part with any of them.

I know what you mean.
However, can't keep all babies produced and ... I suppose it would be a good thing to not have to find myself, eventually, living out in the horse barn due to lack of room in the home.;)
One thing is for sure ... it has not been easy deciding which ones I am holding back from this clutch (and, then, the time will come, soon enough, where I will have to decide on which will be the keepers out of the 5? holdbacks).

[b8g8]

Well, let us know if you're selling! <3

[petpro553]

They are all beautiful. The sunglow motleys are one of my personal favorite morphs. Congratulations!

[Pasodama]

Well, let us know if you're selling! <3

Will do.:)

They are all beautiful. The sunglow motleys are one of my personal favorite morphs. Congratulations!

Thanks.:)

[stephen]

Cubes = Stripes,so I would say your motley is het stripe

[Pasodama]

Cubes = Stripes,so I would say your motley is het stripe

The mother (Sunglow Mot) was bred by, and came from, Don Soderberg.
Don, also, bred (or breeds) Sunglow Stripes.
So, I guess, anything is possible (as far as the Mot being het Stripe).
However, unless I am mistaking crossovers, for being a Motley (or Striped Motley) pattern ... it would seem that she is not.

I figured that the tendency toward a Stripe's head pattern (on some), and what somewhat looks like cubing in the latter part of a few babies bodies, were due to the fact that the babies are 100% het Stripe.
You have made me start wondering, though, and I think I will have to go give the babies' patterns a real good looking over.

[stephen]

Some are stripes.......:)

[Lynnea]

No. 12....drool....! Great clutch!!

[Pasodama]

Some are stripes.......:)

You really think so?
Some had me scratching my head a bit. Those particular individuals have some patterning, that lends toward Stripe (head pattern, of a Stripe, and the portions, that are Striped, are like those of a Stripe, rather than the Striped Motley pattern, etc.), but ... what really threw me off is that I thought the mother was a homozygous Motley (so, did not expect Stripes, of any form, at all).
I, also, don't have much experience, with the cubed patterning of (&/or crossovers on) Stripes .. so, I guess that didn't help matters either.
However, I believe you may be right ... it seems that my Motley gal is, actually, a Motley-Stripe (Motley phenotype but het for Stripe & Motley) and that those babies, who had me scratching my head, are Stripes.

No. 12....drool....! Great clutch!!

Thanks.:)

[The_Thunderer]

Deb, those are amazing! I love them! I've gone over their pics 3x and I can't pick out my fave! LOL. Congrats!

[Pasodama]

Deb, those are amazing! I love them! I've gone over their pics 3x and I can't pick out my fave! LOL. Congrats!

Thanks, Fred.:)

Several are about to have their second shed. Looking forward to it.
I think I will be posting their photos as each one sheds.
Really need to start thinking about parting with most of these young'uns.<sigh>

[Hasek]

Sorry for stealing your thread, I just have one question. What pattern is this?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/nkzoo/Pantherophis%20guttatus%20-%202009/DSC_0038Medium.jpg

[Pasodama]

Sorry for stealing your thread, I just have one question. What pattern is this?

Looks like a Cubed Stripe.

[Hasek]

Thanks! I was thinking the same thing. Just for the info, the parents are Snow het. striped and amel striped.

[Jenstar]

These babies are beautiful. :)

[Pasodama]

Thanks, Jen.:)

[Caryl]

Deb, this clutch is GORGEOUS! I don't know how I missed this thread before. I tend to think your motley was het stripe, too. Several of those babies look to me to have the wide, true-stripe stripe overlaid with some cubing, rather than motley pattern. Have you learned any more about the possible het stripe status of your motley?

[Pasodama]

Thanks, Caryl.:)
Haven't attempted to see if any light could be shed on my female SG Motley's possible het status. I purchased her, from Don S., back in '06 ... and I just figure that, with as many snakes that Don produces/sells, it is likely that he might not remember anything about my girl.

[Caryl]

That makes sense. The babies are beautiful, in any case. I'm almost afraid to ask, but what are your plans for #12?

[Pasodama]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what are your plans for #12?

I was planning on keeping her but ... if you are interested, in her, ... we can talk.:)
Don't know if it matters, to you, but, currently, she is on live pinks.
I had a few slow starters/non-feeders that I was having to see what would entice them to eat. #12 was amongst them and ... live did it for her. Other than when she was in blue, for her second shed, she has been eating each time offered.
Plans are/were to, eventually, convert her to f/t.
Had to do the same for her mother - who, when I got her, was a reluctant f/t feeder and, then, stopped eating altogether ... until live was offered. Never missed a meal after that. Once she had been on live, for awhile, I converted her to f/t (which was ~very~ easy) and she became (and is now) a ~great~ f/t feeder (never missing a meal).

[Jenstar]

My favs are #11 and #14... Where are you going to sell these little guys?

[Pasodama]

Where are you going to sell these little guys?

If anybody is interested, in them, they are available at any time (with the exception of the keepers, of course).
Just have not gotten around to advertising them yet.
However, plans are to list them, sometime soon, here (at CS.com) and a couple of other places.

[Caryl]

They're so beautiful, Deb. I'd love to have one........if I can work out the spatial arrangements and if the reduced grant $ for my two in college doesn't take too big a bite out of my snake money. My husband's currently snarling unhappily. Hmm.... if things don't work out this year, are you planning to repeat that particular pairing?

[Pasodama]

Hmm.... if things don't work out this year, are you planning to repeat that particular pairing?

Plans could always change, of course, but, as of right now, plans are to repeat this breeding next year.

[Caryl]

If I don't end up with one of your babies this year, I definitely want one next year! (The delay since my 7-25 was due to the fact that school started and I've been swamped, not due to lack of interest!) What hets do these little darlings have?

[Pasodama]

If I don't end up with one of your babies this year, I definitely want one next year! (The delay since my 7-25 was due to the fact that school started and I've been swamped, not due to lack of interest!) What hets do these little darlings have?

It would be great if you can get one (if not this year, then the next).:)
Unless mom (or even dad) has any other hidden hets, these babies are not het for another morph. However, pattern wise, will produce Stripes, Motleys, &/or Motley-Stripes.

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