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Problem Continuing

Scotteeo
05-28-2009, 06:40 PM
Ok, so I'm on the whole, snake regurged twice, wait ten days and feed the head routine. It was weird though, when I tried feeding him ten days ago, he refused and regurged the previous weeks meal that night. Now he's refusing again. Am I in the middle of a hunger strike and I don't know it,or is something more serious happening with him that I need to do. I wonder if it's because I've changed brands of pinkies several times. I bought him at exotic pets and first used their pinkies. Then I accidently bought fuzzies at Petsmart, which he ate the first one but he regurged the second feeding of fuzzy while I was in florida. so I moved down to pinkies from Petco when I got back, which he regurged the first (that was the one ten days ago) and now he's not eating this one. (I hope that made sense!) Maybe I should go back to exotic pets and try theirs again in a week?

RobbiesCornField
05-28-2009, 06:53 PM
Keep feeding only pink heads for at least a couple of weeks (if he's able to keep this one down). You should really consider ordering Nutribac from Kathy Love's website ( http://www.cornutopia.com ). If I counted right, he's on regurge number 2? You need to be VERY careful with continuing this. Do a search on here for Kathy Love's Regurge FAQ. It'll be able to explain proper procedure a lot better than I will.

Scotteeo
05-28-2009, 07:22 PM
Haha, right now I wish I could deal with the problem of him keeping it down. I can't even get him to eat! I'll wait but I mean, he and I can only wait so long you know?

RobbiesCornField
05-28-2009, 07:26 PM
Haha, right now I wish I could deal with the problem of him keeping it down. I can't even get him to eat! I'll wait but I mean, he and I can only wait so long you know?

If he doesn't want to eat today, try again in 4 days. But definitely order the Nutribac from Kathy's site, and look for the FAQ on here.

medusacoils
05-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Along with what Robbie is saying, you could try tube feeding him with that nutribac. Make a slury out of it and using a small dosing syringe that you can get at a pharmacy, (just as the pharmacist for one) and hand feeding it to him. This may get things moving along.

But, make sure you are doing everything else Robbie has suggested.

Wayne

Drizzt80
05-28-2009, 08:24 PM
Temps temps temps. 9.5 times out 10 any problem I've encountered, or helped with, on reguring comes back to improper temps in the cage. :shrugs:

D80

BobbyHill
05-28-2009, 08:28 PM
D80 brings up a great point. Are you sure the temps are within a good range?

Scotteeo
05-28-2009, 09:57 PM
To be perfectly honest, at the begining of this dilema no, they weren't but I've forked over my las couple paychecks to make sure EVERYTHING was perfect. I got new aspen, new digital thermostats, and everything is perfect to a T as of ten days ago. I will wait another week to see if maybe it was the change of surroundings but I see him out more than I used to, which to me is a plus. So, in the case I HAVE to use a needle, how do I go about doing that? Do I insert it into his body, do I hold him down, open his mouth and squirt it inside? Btw, sorry if I seemed upset earlier. I just get frustrated when I know I'm doing things right and things don't happen the way they are supposed to. Thank you so much for the help!!!

BobbyHill
05-28-2009, 10:05 PM
You'd be using a syringe without the needle for the Nutribac.

kathylove
05-29-2009, 12:40 AM
It sounds as though he was eating pinks fine for some time, and then regurged when you went to fuzzies? If that is true, then it is most likely the large meal, and not the temps that caused it (although perfect temps are more important than ever, once he has regurged), and the 1st regurge has made him ultra sensitive now. It could be that his tummy is upset now and he doesn't feel like eating. Sometimes time will cure the upset stomach and let him eat TINY meals again. I would probably tube feed him some Nutri Bac if he doesn't eat (and keep down) a pinkie head SOON.

Scotteeo
05-29-2009, 11:05 AM
Ok, so I'm ordering nutibac as we speak. So, if I need to tube feed him, what is the best way to do it? I mean, do I put a pinky and Nutribac in the blender or what? And when I feed him, do I basically hold him down and open his mouth for him? I am going to try one more feeding on thursday but if that doesn't work,then it looks like tube feeding will be the way to go.

kathylove
05-29-2009, 11:15 AM
A straw won’t work. But an eyedropper, or better yet, an oral syringe with a tapered tip like you use for liquid meds for kids would work. You should be able to get it at the drug store or feed store.

Just mix the powder in about 5cc of water (for an adult, or 1 cc for a hatchling). Put as much powder in the water as you can, and still have it remain liquid. Then hold the snake upright (sit down and put the tail between your knees, or use a helper) and use a fingernail to open the mouth. Put the syringe / dropper as far as it will go into the throat (avoiding the glottis - breathing hole - in the bottom of the mouth). Empty the syringe into the snake, and continue to hold it upright for about a minute or so, until the liquid runs into its stomach. If the snake is sticky, rinse off. Put back in cage. Repeat in 3 days, for a total of 3 times. Then feed again and repeat 4 or 5 days after feeding, on an empty stomach. Repeat until the snake has had at least several meals with no regurge (longer is even better).

Buzzard
05-29-2009, 11:22 AM
Just a thought... I had a snake that would regurge because she wanted so bad to fit into the rim of the cage. She would eat just fine then regurge that evening and I would find her around the rim. When I moved her to another enclosure(shoebox) I never had that problem again... Not saying that this could be the issue but it is possible her surroundings maybe causing it, temps ect... Just a thought