cornbreadandmilk
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looking for a nice young male salmon snow price range looking to spend about 250
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salmon snow male $250
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crackerhead
Hug Free Zone
I believe I have what you are looking for but... Please define in terms of genetics what you are expecting. For example: Anery Amel Strawberry or Anery Amel Hypo or Anery Amel Strawberry and RedCoat/Red Factor(maybe, I say this because it hasn't been proven yet) or a very pink snow.
Terri
PS-Dave P. bought JMG's collection. He and SW Reptile, who originated the name, are the two people the use that nomenclature exclusively to describe their line. Dave P. would be a good place to search for good color stock.
Terri
PS-Dave P. bought JMG's collection. He and SW Reptile, who originated the name, are the two people the use that nomenclature exclusively to describe their line. Dave P. would be a good place to search for good color stock.
cornbreadandmilk
Non-registered User
Yeah I know Dave.i bought my female from jmg unfortunately I didn't get a stock number for her so I'm trying not to buy another from that particular line to reduce inbreeding. I define salmon snow as anery, amel, and strawberry. As far as red coat goes I do not put much stock in the idea of that gene. Thanks for your reply. What do you have for sale?
crackerhead
Hug Free Zone
I have three males that fit the bill. The oldest being a 4 year old proven male and the youngest being a yearling. I'll take pics tomorrow if you are interested. I will also have plenty of hatchlings to choose from as well.
Terri
Terri
cornbreadandmilk
Non-registered User
thanks so much guys cant wait to see some pics looking for a yearling male. here is my female.
she is very very dark i love her so much i feel compelled to preserve her beauty
here is my male coral snow originally i believed them. but that was before i understood what a salmon was .here is my male coral snow this pics a little old and he has gotten pinker but he just has this real peach look to him.. quick genetic question if this gene is co-dominate then will i get a third morph from crossing the two?
she is very very dark i love her so much i feel compelled to preserve her beauty
here is my male coral snow originally i believed them. but that was before i understood what a salmon was .here is my male coral snow this pics a little old and he has gotten pinker but he just has this real peach look to him.. quick genetic question if this gene is co-dominate then will i get a third morph from crossing the two?
cornbreadandmilk
Non-registered User
chris68
Arundel Reptiles
Not sure what gene you are talking about. The different lines of "coral" and/or "salmon" snows are being picked apart genetically to determine what makes them "coral" or "salmon", and it is pretty much a pain in the @ss. We are finding out it can be strawberry, it can be various different "red factors", linebreeding, combinations of these. Breed different lines like the OP wants to do hoping to get a clutch of "stunners" apparently can lead to heartbreak...Susan Willis crossed my Tequila Sunrise line snow to her JMG line coral ghost
could end up with a small clutch of blah, no pink whatsoever aneries...Photo's courtesy of Susan Willis, Willis Wildlife Enterprises :*)
chris68
Arundel Reptiles
Been thinking about this more, and I think I know what you mean. It goes along with something a friend was talking about. Maybe strawberry is just hypo A with some form of codominant "red factor" hitching a ride? Just a thought...
dave partington
Crazy Dave
I have one or 2 male salmon snows which hatched in January of this year, presently taking fuzzys. I'll get some pics here in a little bit. They'll be het for coral ghost (not feeling like spelling all that out). Was going to list them later anyways, at $200. Will have a couple dozen salmon snows of wild-type pattern and stripe and vanishing stripe and assorted variants in-between later this year also with hets all over the place.
crackerhead
Hug Free Zone
I know that the Strawberry Snows and Anerys I have from Chuck and Connie are sans the Hypo gene. And they are that lovely rich pink. Therefore I believe Strawberry is a stand alone Hypo gene. But with that in mind, I am testing (teasing apart) the "Salmon"/"Red Factor/Red Coat" corns this year and most probably next as well. It is my hypothesis that the Salmon and Coral Ghost lines are not just Anery and Amel with a Strawberry brightener. I think that along with selective breeding we are seeing the addition of an epistatic genetic factor like Red Coat/Red Factor. Here is were I see the hitch hiker you talk about. It is a long slow laborious process with lots of "waste" products but it's why I'm into corn snake breeding.
I agree that outsourcing is counter indicated in a line bred morph. So much effort has been put into getting a given look that the addition of "new" genetics has an adverse effect on the visual outcome.
If you want Salmon Snow offspring you should buy Salmon Snow stock. No one would breed a Champion German Shepherd with a Puppy mill mutt and expect Rin Tin Tin, right? lol
Terri
cornbreadandmilk
Non-registered User
well i agree with what your saying but as far as out sourcing is concerned are new genes not needed from outside pools on occasion to keep down effects of birth defects? got any pics of your corns for sale?
cornbreadandmilk
Non-registered User
another odd question if you bred (salmon snow x bubble gum snow) and then inbred the offspring snow het strawberry would the visual Hues be impacted? could other genes seen at play in bubble gum be affecting hues?
crackerhead
Hug Free Zone
The question isn't are they from SW Reptile a.k.a. Jim, but where did he get his stock and where did Poppy get hers. The answer would be that they are fruit of the same tree, South Mountain Reptile a.k.a. Don S.. The same can be said for the animals coming out of the JMG line; Don to Jim to Jeff to Dave.
With this in mind, are you really all that worried about in-breeding? lol As much as I hate to think about it, the breeding stock that is presently circulating is probably very inbred.
As to the OP's question and Bubblegums, you should chat with Stephen Wagner and I believe, Carol. That's is were the first Neon animals were observed. And Neon/Red Coat/Red Factor should they prove out are possibly the reason we have the lovely Salmon you are trying to acquire. Only time a testing will prove this out.
Terri
Nanci
Alien Lover
Carol did a test breeding of her "bubblegum" to Steve Wagner's "neon" and the resulting offspring that spent quite a bit of time with me, Gummy Bear, was a _very_ nice pink.
chris68
Arundel Reptiles
No ya don't, it really is a pain...
Terry i thought Dons line was from Jim, not the other way around. I think I remember Chuck saying he (Jim) was either totally ignorant of the background of his line or real good at playing ignorant :rofl:
crackerhead
Hug Free Zone
