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turn 12-31-2017 06:55 PM

Not corn snake related but I need help figuring out what snake this is!!!!!
 
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So I live in western Montana and while walking around my apartment i found a snake near the heater. Yay for me! I caught it with a bowl and I don't want to let it go since its so cold out here I don't think it would survive. It's super small and very aggressive(although that's very understandable) The main native snake here is a rattle snake but there is no rattle or anything resembling one on its tail. I have an extra 10 gallon my corn outgrew, should i keep him for the winter or release him into the snow. What should I do? Any ideas to what kind of snake this is? sorry the pictures are bad. Any help is appreciated!!!!

turn 12-31-2017 07:06 PM

I'm thinking gopher snake because of his blunt stubby snout maybe??

turn 12-31-2017 08:13 PM

Or western terrestrial garter snake since hes so so tiny

Rich Z 12-31-2017 08:44 PM

Looks like some form of garter snake to me. :shrugs:

Shiari 12-31-2017 10:16 PM

Maybe Dekay's brown snake?

MysticExotics 01-01-2018 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiari (Post 1730991)
Maybe Dekay's brown snake?

That's what I'm thinking.

Karl_Mcknight 01-01-2018 06:39 AM

Don't release him into the cold right now. He came into your house to get warm.

I think it's a Garter Snake. I can assure you whatever it is, it's not a rattle snake or any type of venomous snake.

If you have a zoo or animal rescue somewhere in your area, they may take him off your hands. Otherwise, don't release him until the temps get up around 58 degrees or higher. If it is a Garter snake, they typically enjoy cooler temps than most of the other snakes, and will even take a swim to cool off.

You could try feeding earthworms, small feeder fish, and small frogs, as they eat those in the wild.

Good luck with the little fella, I hope he makes it through the winter.

turn 01-01-2018 10:47 AM

I thought garter snake too but it doesn't have the dorsal stripe and only part of the lateral. Plus its belly is a really dark gray, is that common? He's a lot darker than in those pictures and his scales look kind of spread out and quite rough.

turn 01-01-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl_Mcknight (Post 1730993)
Don't release him into the cold right now. He came into your house to get warm.

I think it's a Garter Snake. I can assure you whatever it is, it's not a rattle snake or any type of venomous snake.

If you have a zoo or animal rescue somewhere in your area, they may take him off your hands. Otherwise, don't release him until the temps get up around 58 degrees or higher. If it is a Garter snake, they typically enjoy cooler temps than most of the other snakes, and will even take a swim to cool off.

You could try feeding earthworms, small feeder fish, and small frogs, as they eat those in the wild.

Good luck with the little fella, I hope he makes it through the winter.

Do you think he'd eat pinkie parts? I doubt I can find earthworms this time of year.

Shiari 01-01-2018 10:58 AM

Many pet stores as well as places that sell fishing poles will carry earthworms.


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