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Zombie Cornsnake (Seriously vamped out corn)

Ares2010 said:
WTH have you done to your poor snake? Well, assuming this is true because it just sounds so off the wall, I will go ahead and type out what I think.

First, don't put her under a lamp.. it's too hot.. corns only need under the belly heat to digest and only up to 85 F at the hottest. The lamp might of been too hot and she overheated. If your room wasn't below 70 then the lamp wasn't necessary. She will be just fine with an under the tank heating pad she can lay over when she needs to digest. Just don't let the pad get over 85 F. It will burn the crap out of her.

I'm at a loss as to why you are "popping" her if you thought she was dead.. You popped her too hard and injured her.

Next, not a good idea to pick her up and toss her around like that.. and lying her on her back.

If she does that again, please take her to a vet that knows about herps.
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Like i said, she was under the lamp because she was in her feeding bin which had NO heat source because it is just used for FEEDING and my room was really cold, and i read if things are too cold they will not eat.

I poped her to make sure that "she" was indeed a female and to get a feel of how popping snakes is. I read you should never attempt to pop a young snake. But she was dead so hey... vet? Okay check!
 
neiman07 said:
OPPS i messed it up.. today is not my day i swear!! SORRY guys

also your getting more baby corns maybe you should start with an older snake so you can learn everything you can babys can be a little temperamental i think especially if your new to snakes! just my 2 cents!
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Yes i am getting 4 more at the up coming expo. And a pastel BP
 
naruto said:
Like i said, she was under the lamp because she was in her feeding bin which had NO heat source because it is just used for FEEDING and my room was really cold, and i read if things are too cold they will not eat.

I poped her to make sure that "she" was indeed a female and to get a feel of how popping snakes is. I read you should never attempt to pop a young snake. But she was dead so hey... vet? Okay check!
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As long as it's not below 70 in the room when you go to feed her, she will be just fine. The lamp made her way too hot. And as someone else pointed out.. sounds like you have it too hot in her tank and that's one reason she is drinking so much water.

Well, now that you appeared to have injured her, might be a good idea to get her to a vet to have her vent checked out.

In the meantime, make the heating pad in her tank no hotter than 85 F and the room not below 65 F at the coolest.

I hope she will be ok
 
ceduke said:
Shiari said it better than I could have. Perhaps it's time to look around for a new home for your snake, or do some research on con snake care and temperature regulation.
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You have successfully managed to point out all of my flaws, no what advice can YOU give on dealing with the swollen vent? I removed the water bowl and as of now have her on paper towel.
 
Not to sound like an ass or anything, but please make sure you are taking care of your corn properly before getting any other snakes. It just seems to me you might need a bit more experience before you take on other snakes. Hey.. I had zero knowledge last year when I took on a snake that desperately needed a home in an emergency..
 
Ares2010 said:
As long as it's not below 70 in the room when you go to feed her, she will be just fine. The lamp made her way too hot. And as someone else pointed out.. sounds like you have it too hot in her tank and that's one reason she is drinking so much water.

Well, now that you appeared to have injured her, might be a good idea to get her to a vet to have her vent checked out.

In the meantime, make the heating pad in her tank no hotter than 85 F and the room not below 65 F at the coolest.

I hope she will be ok
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My hot side temp is 85.7 and the hottest it can get on the warm side is 90.3 at the heat mat if she were to burrow, my temps are monitored with a digital probe thermometer and infra red temp gun.

If you can give me a herp vet in NYC that is withing walking or train distance price i'll gladly go.
 
why did you remove her water?! the only time there shouldnt be water is when they are first settling down to hibernate! i believe??!

i cant help you on the swallon vent never had an issue with that before, sorry!
 
Ares2010 said:
No to sound like an ass or anything, but please make sure you are taking care of your corn properly before getting any other snakes.
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I can assure you my husbandry is A+, it was on mistake i made assuming my corn snake was dead. You don't seem like ass one bit, this is a forum thread, your glad to post what ever you want as long as it related to the subject, bad feed back gives things to improve on.
 
you need to get a dimmer switch so that it cant get hotter then 86* because they will burn there bellys and thats nasty stuff.. you can get one of those at lowes, or home depot places like that its an extension cord with a dimmer switch on the end!
 
naruto said:
My hot side temp is 85.7 and the hottest it can get on the warm side is 90.3 at the heat mat if she were to burrow, my temps are monitored with a digital probe thermometer and infra red temp gun.

If you can give me a herp vet in NYC that is withing walking or train distance price i'll gladly go.
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Cut down the temps a bit.. that 90.3 is too hot. I don't know NYC at all....but I will do some digging to see if I can locate one that's knowledgeable about herps.

Like I said.. Im not trying to be an ass.. I am just concerned that you need a bit more experience with the care side before you take on other snakes.. I did it that way and was rewarded for my knowledge when I got my second corn.
 
naruto said:
You have successfully managed to point out all of my flaws, no what advice can YOU give on dealing with the swollen vent? I removed the water bowl and as of now have her on paper towel.
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Dumb question here but why take away her water? If she is dehydrated (because it DOES sound like you overheated her) and she has no access to water she could die for real.
Plus a few of us said that she should go to a vet for that injury you caused........
 
neiman07 said:
why did you remove her water?! the only time there shouldnt be water is when they are first settling down to hibernate! i believe??!

i cant help you on the swallon vent never had an issue with that before, sorry!
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The water is removed to prevent soaking and spilling, spilled water, equals high humidity, high humidity will rise the chance of the swollen vent becoming infected and i dont want to risk her soaking.. but yet im the newbie
 
starsevol said:
Dumb question here but why take away her water? If she is dehydrated (because it DOES sound like you overheated her) and she has no access to water she could die for real.
Plus a few of us said that she should go to a vet for that injury you caused........
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I mist her, and she drinks as i mist her, i did it twice already and it worked out fine. And as i said before, give me a herp vet in walking distance in NYC and i'll gladly take her.
 
Ares2010 said:
Cut down the temps a bit.. that 90.3 is too hot. I don't know NYC at all....but I will do some digging to see if I can locate one that's knowledgeable about herps.

Like I said.. Im not trying to be an ass.. I am just concerned that you need a bit more experience with the care side before you take on other snakes.. I did it that way and was rewarded for my knowledge when I got my second corn.
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That is at the base only if she diggs all the way down... and lays on the heat mat and still thats not enough to burn her...
 
naruto said:
The water is removed to prevent soaking and spilling, spilled water, equals high humidity, high humidity will rise the chance of the swollen vent becoming infected and i dont want to risk her soaking.. but yet im the newbie
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Does she have a heavy water dish so she can't knock it over? She needs her water always in the tank with her. They need a lot of water or they dehydrate and die. If you don't have a heavy dish, get one.... please put her water back in with her.. she needs it.

Man, I am worried about your snake now.

And I am not saying you don't have any husbandry skills.. it just sounds like you are over heating her.
 
neiman07 said:
you need to get a dimmer switch so that it cant get hotter then 86* because they will burn there bellys and thats nasty stuff.. you can get one of those at lowes, or home depot places like that its an extension cord with a dimmer switch on the end!
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I have a ranco thermostat.
 
Ares2010 said:
Does she have a heavy water dish so she can't knock it over? She needs her water always in the tank with her. They need a lot of water or they dehydrate and die. If you don't have a heavy dish, get one.... please put her water back in with her.. she needs it.

Man, I am worried about your snake now.

And I am not saying you don't have any husbandry skills.. it just sounds like you are over heating her.
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My temps are good, no need to worry and i'll put the water dish back in.
 
And didn't you post that your Mom didn't even want you to have her? How are you going to get other snakes if she's already against this one?
 
Ares2010 said:
Cut down the temps a bit.. that 90.3 is too hot. I don't know NYC at all....but I will do some digging to see if I can locate one that's knowledgeable about herps.

Like I said.. Im not trying to be an ass.. I am just concerned that you need a bit more experience with the care side before you take on other snakes.. I did it that way and was rewarded for my knowledge when I got my second corn.
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I agree, this time of year they really need NO heat at all for the most part. I am of the opinion that too cool is better than too hot. Too cool you might have a regurge at the worst, too hot and you will have a dead snake. Better to err on the cool side....
 
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