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Don Soderberg's Palmetto

Make sure and smile while you fight of my Pitts, if you make it to the corn building smile again because you will be on camera!!!! Come on by and I can show them to you, but don't be mistaken that a collection like mine has s heak of a security system. :)
 
I am new to the corn world, having 5 at the moment (2 rescues that I will probably re-home). When first researching the available corn morphs, I came across Don's Palmetto's, this snake made me WANT CORNS!!, of course I can't afford one at this time, but one day I WILL HAVE ONE!! So Don, you will be hearing from me.....not soon...... but you will!!
 
ouch, wow, dang, like, ouch. wow. ouch, I need one, Woowoww. dang, ouch. wow. well, their pics seem to be improving. Danged enablers, facilitators, I see them many places, &nd some of the m have posted on this thread
 
Well, those are some better pictures. Don tried to explain it (what Palmetto is) in words in Daytona, thanks Graham for the pics. Put together its still a bit much to swallow in a single sitting. It's not a pattern morph, it's not a color/s morph, it's something else. Emotionally conflicted over a beautiful snake. Thanks for sharing both of you. Need aspirin, having a panic attack.
 
Sooo is there only 4 palmetto currently sold...?? I'm sure there are more,
Has anyone else paid the deposit?????
 
greenman said:
I was just showing these to my girlfriend! They are beautiful!!! 4000 is a little out of reach but if it came closer to 1000 i would definitely invest! One of the most beautiful corn. scratch that, snakes i've ever seen!!!
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If you invest now , by the time they will be around 1000 , you will have your investment multiplied many times , IMO , and you have already for many years the most beautiful corn too
 
Sorry if I missed it somewhere, a quick question or two.

What Morph was the Female that the Male Palmetto was paired with?

Did the f1 generation produce Palmetto babies?
 
That is definitely a unique and beautiful snake.

At this initial price point, it doesn't make much sense to me to purchase one unless you plan on breeding and selling the babies. (Unless, of course, you simply have the extra money to spend that won't hurt your budget in anyway and can afford to buy one for a pet)

To be certain, as the gene pool widens, the prices will drop for those who want one simply as a pet. But getting in on the ground floor is the way to go for the first few years to make any money. The price drops on Ball Python morphs are a clear indication of this trend.

Fortunately for me, the Okeetees that are near and dear to my heart are still within my limited budget.

It is a wonderful thing to see the beauty and diversity that snakes contain, hidden in their genetic code waiting to be brought out by experienced breeders across the country. For that, I say a huge Thank You for your efforts!
 
rolandslf said:
Sorry if I missed it somewhere, a quick question or two.

What Morph was the Female that the Male Palmetto was paired with?

Did the f1 generation produce Palmetto babies?
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Not sure exactly which morph females it was first paired with, but they were morphs Jim Godfrey had bred him to just prior to sending him to Don's place just in case something happened to it via transit. Also it was fairly late in the season so they didn't want to take a chance there either.

No, all the F-1 offspring were hets since it is a simple recessive gene. They had to be back-bred to one another and/or to the Palmetto sire to create more Palmetto's.


~Doug
 
DMong said:
No, all the F-1 offspring were hets since it is a simple recessive gene. They had to be back-bred to one another and/or to the Palmetto sire to create more Palmetto's.
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Which means that the F-1 generation did produce Palmettos.:poke:
Depends on how you read it though.;)
 
F1 is the first generation. F2 is the second. That means that the normal offspring from the palmetto and the female were the F1- no palmettos produced. Breeding the offspring together, or back to the palmetto produced a second generation, this time with Palmettos. Because these appeared in the F2, it showed it was a recessive trait.
 
Pasodama said:
I don't get it.:confused:
Maybe it's old age ... no ... no ... it is lack of sleep. Yep, that's my excuse ... lack of sleep.:D
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Lol. Well, the F-1 was bred back to the parent, so while being an F-2, someone might say they could technically be F-1's as well (because the father of the F2 is also the grandfather of the F2), so I was saying they were F1squareds...


Forget it. It was a horrible joke. :crazy01:
 
knox said:
The price drops on Ball Python morphs are a clear indication of this trend.
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I'm going to have disagree with you there. when given the choice; invest in Ball Pythons or invest in Cornsnakes, Ball Pythons win everytime. You WILL make money if you invest correctly. I personally was investing in Balls until I decided to foucs my efforts 100% on Fat-tails. Now this was only a few short weeks ago and with my sell off I was able to buy several awesome groups of Fat-Tails, and they're not cheap. Balls sell, and they maintain their price very well. The male Banana Ball sells for $60,000. They sold for that last season and are selling for that this season. Mind you that's a sex linked trait. But look at Enchis, they were cheap until a few season ago and now, I wouldn't sell a female Enchi for anything less than $600! Balls are a good investment as long as you don't invest in Pastels and Spiders and other base stuff. Now Corns have lost so much value that they are not worth the investment unless you are working with super high dollar animals.
 
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