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When is a corn snake an adult?

Mina

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I have two male corn snakes.
The lavendar motley hatched 6/18/06, he weighs 202 grams.
Then snow hatched in early 06, and weighs 212 grams.
Are they considered adults now even though they aren't 3 years old yet?
 
Well, an adult, as in a corn ready to breed, should probably be a little larger. It sounds like you've heard the 3-3-3 rule, 300 grams, 3 feet long, and 3 years old. As males, the rule can be stretched a little more than one should for female, but I'm still not sure I'd call those guys adults. They seem a little small right now. Are you considering breeding, because that's the only thing I can think of that hinges on whether the snake is an "adult"?
 
No, I'm not considering breeding for the guys yet. The reason I was asking is I'm attempting to follow the "Munson Feeding Plan".
I was questioning the part that says an adult would be 170g or bigger, then he says to feed 20-30g of food every 7 -x days, then in a note at the bottom said adult males should be feed every 11-14 days.
I'm trying to decide if basically I should be feeding them 20-30 g of food every week or once every two weeks.
And yes, I'm aware of the 3 3 3 guide lines for breeding. My biggest female at 122g and a year and a half of age is no where close, even if I thought the gents were ready, which I don't.
 
The "Adult (20-30g)..." is saying to feed an adult mouse, not that a 170 gram snake is considered an adult. My largest corn is 91g so I'm not really sure of the juvenile/adult cutoff either.
 
Actually, yes, it does. The last line before the note says "Adult (20-30g) every 7- x days (Snake = 170+)
I understood the part about the weight of the food, I was questioning the frequency of feeding specifically.
 
Actually, yes, it does. The last line before the note says "Adult (20-30g) every 7- x days (Snake = 170+)
I understood the part about the weight of the food, I was questioning the frequency of feeding specifically.

I still don't see where it says 170+ is an adult corn but thats fine...

Here is a quote from Kathy Love's book...as you probably know they do a lot of their measurements in length not weight.

"We estimate that a very average feeding schedule in captivity for older corns-those 3-4 feet or longer-might be one or two appropriately-sized food animals every seven to fourteen days"
 
Nope, you are right, I'm an idiot! I was reading it wrong. I was thinking the adult in that line meant snake, and after rereading, I'm sure if was referring to the mouse.
I actually haven't read any of Cathy Love's books. I know I should. I will see what I can find at the next reptile swap.
 
Nope, you are right, I'm an idiot! I was reading it wrong. I was thinking the adult in that line meant snake, and after rereading, I'm sure if was referring to the mouse.
I actually haven't read any of Cathy Love's books. I know I should. I will see what I can find at the next reptile swap.


I think Kathy's book should be required reading for anyone who is even thinking about buying a cornsnake.... when I'm Queen.... :)

I required it before I bought one for my 13yr old daughter and I read it even though I didn't like snakes so that I would know whether she read it or not.

As for the question, I have four '06s and I still think of them as youngsters. On the other hand, Kieran is an 2001, so definitely an adult. They all five get fed every 5-7 days even Kieran. He's not fat, so it's not hurting him to be fed that often and he expects it :)
 
Considering that they are males, I'd call those animals adults. Folks breed 2 year old males routinely.
 
Considering that they are males, I'd call those animals adults. Folks breed 2 year old males routinely.

Of course, 12 yr old boys can breed, but that doesn't make them adults. In horses, a 2 yr old can breed, but they are not considered adults until they are four.... some snakes have bred as early as a year old, so not sure that I would consider that the guiding line to whether a snake is an adult or not. I think I would probably use the 3 or 4 year mark..
 
There won't be any breeding of my boys any time soon. I only have one female who is even close to them in age and size. Right now she only is a year and a half old and 112 grams. The boys will just have to wait for her.
Actually, the snow will have to wait even longer. The female I want to breed him to is an amel that hatched this August. (her parents were a snow and a charcoal, so I'm hoping to get some snows from breeding them).
I a little concerned that the lavender motley is getting a little fat, I'm going to take them to 30 grams of food once every two weeks and see how they do.
 
Of course, 12 yr old boys can breed, but that doesn't make them adults. In horses, a 2 yr old can breed, but they are not considered adults until they are four.... some snakes have bred as early as a year old, so not sure that I would consider that the guiding line to whether a snake is an adult or not. I think I would probably use the 3 or 4 year mark..

I respect your points, except comparing these animals to a 12 year old boy. There are no social morals in the animal kingdom. Size, not age, determines when a corn snake of either gender is ready to breed. If you don't brumate the first two years and power feed, you can have some corns at large adult size in two years. I don't recommend it, just pointing it out/being an Internet stickler. :cheers:
 
I respect your points, except comparing these animals to a 12 year old boy. There are no social morals in the animal kingdom. Size, not age, determines when a corn snake of either gender is ready to breed. If you don't brumate the first two years and power feed, you can have some corns at large adult size in two years. I don't recommend it, just pointing it out/being an Internet stickler. :cheers:
Ok thanks hbbbn for nmn

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