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Originally Posted by dave partington
Doug, great post, as usual.
Back in January when you and me exchanged a dozen or so PM's, I asked you about the Cal King localities, and learned at that time, (can't remember the exact locality names here, I am sure you'll know them, what with your new book on the shelves &c)-- anyways you mentioned a couple different localities, one where some individuals are striped, others not--
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a locality from where all of the Cal Kings are striped.
At that time I was wondering if using a different form of CalKing, from the ALL striped locality, would be a better choice for studying the inheritance. What I find really odd about this public post of yours is that while you have disdain for hybrids, merely suggesting that another locality of Cal King might prove out higher heritablity of stripe, makes an interesting speculation to those of us who might not have considered making that cross. But since you have now publicly mentioned it outloud...
Anyways you'd dismissed that the heritablity stripe would make no difference as to the locality back in January, but now that you've brought it up again are you saying it might make a difference now?
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Hi Dave. The Honduran book isn't in final print just yet, as we are still adding and editing many things,..........but will be available fairly soon. The Cal. king book will be a bit later on, but some of the content has begun a while back.
Sure, there are different locales of stripes, banded, and countless other mixed phenotypes in the wild and in captivity. What I recall saying is that MANY in the hobby are of mixed localities, lineages, and all sorts of variable phenotypes, so predicting EXACTLY what will be produced in many of these captive Cal. king clutches can be very unpredictable. This goes for certain locales too. As to precise inheritance, San Diego striped phenotypes are dominant over bandeded forms, but I don't know all about exactly what will be produced when bred to whatever types someone happens to have. As I said a good while back, this can depend GREATLY on the parent stock lineage and what all their specific background was/is. I haven't bred enough Cal. kings personally to begin to know everything about their inheritance. Others like Kerby Ross, Ross Padilla, Brian Hubbs, Paul Lynum, etc..and many others know more about . Ross Padilla's Cal. king site is the one I suggested to you to check out back then. He and the others field herp all over California and are far more familiar with the different phenotypes from the different counties and what not than I am.
I am interested if 50% normal clutches and 50% tessera phenotype animals are absolutely predictable just like everyone else is, but on the other hand as you know I don't care for producing hybrids either..LOL!.....so it is pretty tough to have the cake and eat it too where I sit. Now as Shiari mentoned, I don't know if that breeding will prove or disprove anything, because you didn't start off with a 100% locality authentic Cal. king of any type........I just don't know either way to be honest. I don't even know if it makes a difference if a San Diego stripe is used or a Newport-Long Beach aberrant is used.......the Newports are what Tessseras most look like phenotypically, but I don't know which type might have been used, or if the clean San Diego when mixed with cornsnake genetics give them this look......This is all stuff that I do not know at all. I was only asking about where the known hybrid offspring would go....nothing more really.
~Doug