What about in Texas?

Gregg:

That is highly possible. The book I was referring to was published in 2000.

Thanks for the info,
Brian Miller
BC Reptiles

here is a pic of the one i caught

I can't be sure from this pic, but that looks like it could maybe be a juvenile black rat snake. Especially since it is wild caught; I think that black rats are much more common in Texas than corns are. Anyone else have an opinion?

First off, black rats are not common in Texas (they are further northeast of here). What we have here, and what you have caught is a baby Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe obsoleta lindheimerii). The head pattern gives it away and also the blotch count is to low for an Elaphe guttata emoryi (Great Plains Rat Snake).

Texas rats are great little snakes, that get pretty big and like to bite. They are quite common over the eastern 2/3 of the state.

I'm sorry that it's not a corn, but like I said. It's still a rat snake!

Brian Miller

Yep, Rat.

I am curious about it. What part of Texas did you find it in? How did you take it, and are you planning on releasing it or keeping it? I am interested in our native species and their conservation, so any details you can provide you be appreciated.

well i live in cooper texas that is is east, east texas right buy the oklahoma border. i also plan on keeping this snake to breed to my other rat snake and this is frit time that i have caught this type of rat snake in my county.

were in nj are u finding corns? i live in nj and all i find are milk snakes,dk's ribbion's garters and sum water moccinsions(sorry for my spelling) i look all over and i dont find them i know there here... i been looking for at least 4 years now and i can never get any!!!! 1 day i will get him/hur and that will be the day i cnat have anymore snakes..lol....

It's illegal to own wild caught corns in NJ. It's even illegal to own CB "normal" colored ones there, I think.

as for corn's your llowed to catch them and keep them,there's no permits needed for corn's only deadly snakes.

I have a couple of rescues from New Jersey. The rescue I got them from said it is illegal to own "normal" colored ones, and it is illegal to BREED corns in New Jersey just in case you produce "normal" colored ones.

You could probably check with that rescue to get more info. It is All Species Reptile rescue. The website is: http://www.all-species-reptile-rescue.com/

You should be able to find Rachel's (the owner) e-mail info on the site.