Santa said:
Once again an evolutionist has made a statement of "fact" that can't be proven thanks to the convenient "millions of years" clause in their theory.
You folks have the right to believe what you want to believe. I don't have a problem with that at all. But I will not stand by and allow you to spew out statements like the one above. Yes, a lot of scientist (but certainly not all) believe the theory of evolution. But it is just a theory - not fact.
I don't mind the discussions at all. I think Darwin's work was fascinating. Just don't try to cram it down my throat as fact. Don't use phrases like "most definitely" or "will" without the evidence to prove it.
Not to be insulting, but as an old farmer would say "I don't have to step in BS to know what BS is!"
And not to be insulting, but once again a creationist has used the word "theory" in a context different than the scientific community. Let's review:
Lay people often misinterpret the language used by scientists. And for that reason, they sometimes draw the wrong conclusions as to what the scientific terms mean.
Three such terms that are often used interchangeably are "scientific law," "hypothesis," and "theory."
In layman’s terms, if something is said to be “just a theory,” it usually means that it is a mere guess, or is unproved. It might even lack credibility. But in scientific terms, a theory implies that something has been proven and is generally accepted as being true.
Here is what each of these terms means to a scientist:
Scientific Law: This is a statement of fact meant to explain, in concise terms, an action or set of actions. It is generally accepted to be true and univseral, and can sometimes be expressed in terms of a single mathematical equation. Scientific laws are similar to mathematical postulates. They don’t really need any complex external proofs; they are accepted at face value based upon the fact that they have always been observed to be true.
Some scientific laws, or laws of nature, include the law of gravity, the law of thermodynamics, and Hook’s law of elasticity.
Hypothesis: This is an educated guess based upon observation. It is a rational explanation of a single event or phenomenon based upon what is observed, but which has not been proved. Most hypotheses can be supported or refuted by experimentation or continued observation.
Theory: A theory is more like a scientific law than a hypothesis. A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. One scientist cannot create a theory; he can only create a hypothesis.
In general, both a scientific theory and a scientific law are accepted to be true by the scientific community as a whole. Both are used to make predictions of events. Both are used to advance technology.
The biggest difference between a law and a theory is that a theory is much more complex and dynamic. A law governs a single action, whereas a theory explains a whole series of related phenomena.
An analogy can be made using a slingshot and an automobile. A scientific law is like a slingshot. A slingshot has but one moving part--the rubber band. If you put a rock in it and draw it back, the rock will fly out at a predictable speed, depending upon the distance the band is drawn back.
An automobile has many moving parts, all working in unison to perform the chore of transporting someone from one point to another point. An automobile is a complex piece of machinery. Sometimes, improvements are made to one or more component parts. A new set of spark plugs that are composed of a better alloy that can withstand heat better, for example, might replace the existing set.
But the function of the automobile as a whole remains unchanged.
A theory is like the automobile. Components of it can be changed or improved upon, without changing the overall truth of the theory as a whole.
Some scientific theories include the theory of evolution, the theory of relativity, and the quantum theory. All of these theories are well documented and proved beyond reasonable doubt. Yet scientists continue to tinker with the component hypotheses of each theory in an attempt to make them more elegant and concise, or to make them more all-encompassing. Theories can be tweaked, but they are seldom, if ever, entirely replaced.
Thus, Darwin
hypothesized the process of evolution; the scientific community, such as Stephen Jay Gould, through trial and verification, has advanced the
theory of evolution. In similar fashion, Einstein
hypothesized relativity and quantum mechanics; the scientific community, such as Stephen Hawking and Richard Feynman, through trial and verification, has advanced the
theory of relativity and quantum
theory.
regards,
jazz
(not standing by while someone else "spews")
