Need Corns

So you're asking for free Corns for an experienced Corn breeder who owns a pet store, and who stopped breeding 4 years ago because he couldn't make money from them. Glad to have that clarified. Perhaps he should be asking for himself? Not many people would pass on Corns to someone they've never had any contact with, via someone with no experience of them.

He's now going to keep and breed Corns, purely in order to show you how to do it and will essentially be looking for people to "rescue" anything he produces rather than selling them? That doesn't sound sensible.

How will he cover the costs? Once he gets these snakes feeding reliably, they'll be eating for 15+ years. Never mind the cost of housing, heating and feeding hatchlings, which he already knows he'll have trouble shifting. That's 15+ new Corns each year if he only has one pair - does he seriously know that many people who will take on Corns from him?

Perhaps you should ask him to sign up here and explain directly how all of this is going to work for him. The way I understand it, he's going to lay out long-term money with no hope of even recouping his costs, just to teach you how to breed. I hope you'll forgive me for observing that this doesn't sound likely.

Well, OF COURSE you would rather go this route. To get animals for free, all the equiptment and food they need for free, and not have to do a thing without someone there to hold your hand, helping you breed animals that he stopped selling himself 4 years ago...because...they don't sell!!! LOL

Yup, atta way to becoming a contributing member to a forum all righty........

Honeslty he has pleanty of experience and im sure he knows what he is doing ! ....

I dont care for a cheap corn since i could get a pair for 80 shipped or a nice Blood for a little more ...

I just want to learn (hands on) and i have a chance so why not ?

Originally Posted by bitsy

So you're asking for free Corns for an experienced Corn breeder who owns a pet store, and who stopped breeding 4 years ago because he couldn't make money from them. Glad to have that clarified. Perhaps he should be asking for himself? Not many people would pass on Corns to someone they've never had any contact with, via someone with no experience of them.

He's now going to keep and breed Corns, purely in order to show you how to do it and will essentially be looking for people to "rescue" anything he produces rather than selling them? That doesn't sound sensible.

How will he cover the costs? Once he gets these snakes feeding reliably, they'll be eating for 15+ years. Never mind the cost of housing, heating and feeding hatchlings, which he already knows he'll have trouble shifting. That's 15+ new Corns each year if he only has one pair - does he seriously know that many people who will take on Corns from him?

Perhaps you should ask him to sign up here and explain directly how all of this is going to work for him. The way I understand it, he's going to lay out long-term money with no hope of even recouping his costs, just to teach you how to breed. I hope you'll forgive me for observing that this doesn't sound likely.

His parents passed away a couple of years ago and left with Pleanty of money so that is no issue, as for giving them away when i was in the store today about 30 ppl who walked in said they would love to take them off his hands when he starts again !

Anything else ? you want his social ?

Never really been a member on a site where all people want to do is try make you out to a bad person !

Also when we were talking today we only talked about laying a couple of times...

Jdsr917, when coming to the bargaining table, one should never come empty-handed and expect to walk away, hands and pockets full.
It is all in the approach.
Research, erudition, and legwork first.
And by research, I mean to include 'finding out how most other people got their first snake(s)'.
I've never known a single car salesman to be talked out of a free car, anymore than I've heard of a MacDonald's giving away free hamburgers.

Originally Posted by vetusvates

Jdsr917, when coming to the bargaining table, one should never come empty-handed and expect to walk away, hands and pockets full.
It is all in the approach.
Research, erudition, and legwork first.
And by research, I mean to include 'finding out how most other people got their first snake(s)'.
I've never known a single car salesman to be talked out of a free car, anymore than I've heard of a MacDonald's giving away free hamburgers.

I agree 100% I guess i should look at that fact that most of these ppl do care ALOT about these animals and dont want someone out there breeding a bad batch and causing problems for the breed ! ...

I really think he should be buying/sourcing his own Corns. Being an ex-breeder and owning a shop for 35 years, he must have better ways of finding healthy breeding stock then sending you onto the internet to look for freebies and/or problem feeders.

If you really want hands-on experience, you need to own a Corn yourself. If you don't feel confident to own your own, then maybe you should wait a year and see how you feel come next summer?

i was in the store today about 30 ppl who walked in said they would love to take them off his hands when he starts again

Wow, that's a high volume pet store! My local specialist reptile shop doesn't get 30 people through the doors in a *week* who want Corns.

How come he couldn't sell them four years ago, if the local population is so all-fire keen on them now?

If I were going to buy a Jaguar, I would go to a reputable Jaguar dealer with a plan.
If I were going to buy a volkswagen beetle, I'd still do something very very similar.

I would not ask for two free Jaguars, and presume to set up a brand new seat-of-my-pants dealership across the street from a 50 year old internationally known dealership.

This hobby is no less dignified, in fact quite the contrary, than any other hobby. You'll get much further here by treating folks with dignity. Then will come the reciprocation.