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I NEED HELP ASAP!

crotalis40741

crotalis40741

Nanci said put sexy bangs
A couple of weeks ago I lost a female hatchling, the week before she ate and was fine, no regurge, a few days later she refused to eat was lethargic and died, she looked dehydrated but had a full water bowl. Now I have another female doing the same thing, they have individual boxes. They are both 2010 hatchlings, and all seemed to be doing great. Then they can barely move and die. I just dont understand it, I have other hatchlings that i have raised with no problem. Now i am worried about the rest of my hatchlings the same age.
Any suggestions would be appreciated, I have racked my brain trying to figure it out.
thank you all
bob
 
If you can afford it, you need to get this snake to a vet for a necropsy if she passes. It should cost under $200. You can refrigerate the body but it's best to get her in to the vet asap, as well as any poop you can save.

Is there anything environmantal it could be? Change in mouse supply? Temps okay- thermostat/heat working?
 
no change of anything here, I raise my own feeder supply so all the snakes are fed out of the same thing. I have contacted the vets here and none of them are familiar with working with snakes, I am taking some pooh in to be checked is all they can do. the heat and the temps are fine. It is such a rapid change and loss in them.
 
Sorry for your loss. I would be torn up if any of my babies died.
Environmental issue maybe? Do you live alone, in an apartment/house? Pesticides, herbicides and/or household cleaners can be very deadly to reptiles. I know where I live they send a pest guy once a month and I almost killed the lady in the rental office after the first time they showed up unannounced. Now I have my snake room locked when I am not home.
 
No I live alone, and know there are no cleaners or pesticides get close to them. Right now i have no idea what is going on, I don't know if it is just a coincidence but has both been females, The other hatchlings the same age are all looking good and active, she was looking the same as them 3 days ago.
thank you both for the suggestions and help
 
Just wondering... are they both from the same breeder? Did you try contacting the breeder to see if anyone else has had the same problem? Just a thought.....
 
yeah they are from the same breeder, the breeder is a great guy. i have raised quite a few hatchlings over the years and not seen any do what these are doing. thank you for the kind words.
 
Have you talked to the breeder about this? What kind of water do you have them on? I heard with hatchlings they should be fed bottled water. Just a thought.
 
How long have you had the 2010's? Have you kept them isolated from the rest of your collection? Have you isolated any other snakes from that same source? And do you plan to isolate your new arrivals?? It is not expected, normal, acceptable for two snakes to die for no apparent reason in such a short time span, and it makes me quite nervous for you that they are both from the same source.

When someone, anyone, has a snake die, and doesn't take steps to find out the cause, they are just prolonging the problem. It isn't going to go away. Can you find a reptile vet anywhere?
 
i separated the new arrivals i got this morning from the rest of the group, and i have the sick one away from the rest of her arrival mates, i am real nervous about it all. i have never lost babies like this. i have called all the vets in the surrounding area, none of them are familiar with snakes, this part of ky is pretty rural and they mainly deal with the dogs, cats, and live stock, i am doing everything i can to find the cause and not wanting to prolong anything with them, they have only been here a few weeks, all have eaten, and what ever this thing is does them in fast. they are all away from the rest of my collection, i have other 2010s that i have had for a while now that are doing great.
sorry to ramble on just kinda distraught at the moment. thank you all for the adice
 
Yes that is them, i am beside myself. I lost the caramel stripe last week and today my female amel het hypo fire. I am hoping the vet that is supposed to call me in the morning does and we can figure out what is going on.
 
It crossed my mind because I remembered asking about an update around Mar 12.

I am so sorry to hear of your bad news.
 
Yes i was going to update them soon, was trying to let them get some size on them. I had a male regurge for the first time this evening he ate 4 days ago, one of the other males regurged yesterday but neither are showing the signs the females did before they died. I am hoping when the vet calls me he can do some tests and see if he can find the problem. thanks to all who have replied
 
I'll get what info I can that you can give your local vet to help him/her at least send in the proper samples and run the proper tests that can at least rule out crypto. Hopefully, you are at least a client for pets that vet does normally see. Otherwise, you're going to have a more difficult time getting him/her to do something they don't normally do. If you get another regurge, save it in the fridge. If possible, ask your vet today for a couple of clean slides and a slide holder so you will have them handy. You can let him/her know that you're talking with a certified vet tech with 28 years experience that will walk all of you through what you need to send off to their lab. If you can get the name of the lab they use, that will help me.
 
Thank you very much, The vet just called me back and said he couldn't help me, that they didn't have the capacity to test the snakes. I have an email and phone for one in Va that does snakes so I am contacting them to see what they need. I talked with one vet yesterday and some breeders and all told me it didnt sound like crypto said the snakes were dying too fast. All said they thought it sounded viral. I don't know.
As soon as i know something from the Va vet i will let you know as to what i need to send them. Thank you very much Susan. I really appreciate it.
 
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