New Member! Also Question about Miami Breeders

Hi! My name's Alysha!

I just joined this forum last week and super insane excited to be getting my corn snake shipped hopefully soon from Don Soderberg at South Mountain. Its been 10 years since I owned my last corn (Zaltys who is in my Avatar) which is waaaaaaaayyyyy too long to be going without a corn. Needless to say I am going through some serious corn-withdrawal at the mo'. Been waiting over a week for my new guy to be shipped since weather is too cold up here in upstate NY, looks like I wont have a chance to get him till NEXT week now. So I am planning on my next purchase already to keep me sane while I wait

New guy from Don is an Extreme Okeetee. His name is Quetzalcoatl.

I also want to be getting a female Miami Corn as well and have been trying to research who the best breeders for this tricky colouring are. Or shall I say breeders who have had the best success with getting the ever coveted silver/gray ground colour with burgundy saddles.

I have just found Carol Huddleston's website but Im not sure if she is still running it or breeding still??? It seems to be stuck on 2010... I also have found some threads here with folks mentioning her etc... but they are all from 2012 and earlier. Am I too late to the party? Anyone know of any other breeders out there who seem to have a knack of throwing out some high contrast Miami's?

Let me know if I should make a thread for this request.

I like the Miami Types too. I think that "Steel Gray" Color is sharp with the orange and red.

There is a guy named Tim Mangrum on Facebook. He lives in Miami and is always posting pictures of his Miami Corn snakes. Some of them he catches wild, and I think some of them are pets.

I honestly don't know if he is a breeder or seller, but he has the most amazing Miami Type Corn snakes I've ever seen.

I would suggest you get in touch with him, and maybe he will sell you one, but if not, perhaps he can steer you in the right direction. (The picture I am enclosing with this post is one of Tim's he recently posted.)

While you're currently dealing with Don Soderberg, did you not ask him about Miami Corns? Does he not breed those?

Hi! Thanks for the reply! I'll definitely check him out. Yeah actually I was going to see if Don has any but when I check his site (like daily lol) He doesnt have any up for sale. Hatchlings OR adults. Im surprised really cuz I thought they were quite common (not being some type of super-morph and just being a wild type and all) He might just be sold out. His last batch is 2017s. Thats the batch I ordered my Extreme from (One day I would like to get into selectively breeding Extreme Miami's )

Thanks so much for the info on Tim Mangrum, I'll look him on FB. Yeah Ive seen some AMAZING photos out there of really beautiful silver ones with firey saddles. Just gorgeous. Too bad the Miami colouring is not a recessive trait that one can breed for. From what I've read its basically pot luck with a dash of selective breeding.

Zaltys said:

......... Thanks so much for the info on Tim Mangrum, I'll look him on FB. Yeah Ive seen some AMAZING photos out there of really beautiful silver ones with firey saddles. Just gorgeous. Too bad the Miami colouring is not a recessive trait that one can breed for. From what I've read its basically pot luck with a dash of selective breeding.

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That's one reason why I mentioned Tim to you. He actually lives in Miami, and he catches them all the time. Apparently it's not so "Pot Luck" as you call it down there. There appears to be an awful lot of the Miami Coloring actually occurring in Miami. LOL!!!!

I'm not sure what the laws are down there. Some states don't let you mess with the wild life and some do. For all I know he may be using wild caught as breeders?????? I have no idea, but he does have pictures of some really nice snakes.

Thats so true!!! I cant recall the site off hand, (I think its Sunshine Serpents) but it was of a couple who live in Miami and breed+ catch Miami corns. It doesnt seem like they sell though, just have a site about it. Anyway, some of their WILD caught are AMAZING. So beautiful!! No need for human interference lol!!


Hey do mind double checking if his name is Tim Mangrum, or "Mangum". I searched FB and found a Tim Mangum with a photo of what looks like a Motley(?) as his profile pic. (forgive my sever deficiency is identifying morphs, I am still learning all of the different types.)

Yup, my mistake. It is Mangum. Sorry

OK cool lol! Thanks!!

by the way that should read *severe ---not server

Carol is still breeding snakes. I might do a clutch of milksnake Miamis, or pinstripe Miami motleys, or both.

Nanci said:

Carol is still breeding snakes.

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x2. Her site hasn't been updated in a long time. I picked up a couple from her this past fall that she had posted on her facebook page.

Another one to check out is Walter Smith's captive creations. He has some really nice miamis and a pleasure to deal with.

Mystic exotics on this forum also has miamis but seems to mostly deal with tesseras.

Thanks both 67temp and Nanci for your replies! I might just email Carol. I tried looking her up on FB but lots of Carol's came up so I didnt want to randomly message people. I take it she still ships out? @67temp, I will DEFINITELY also look up Walter Smith's captive creations. Thats great. Thanks to everyone for replying!

You want to look up Carol Huddleston on Facebook. Her icon is a Miami corn snake. Can't mistake her for anyone else

The best way to get in touch with Carol is e-mail.

My website hasn't been updated in FOREVER. There just isn't enough time for everything in my life right now. So I can sympathize with people who never update, now!

I have a nice Miami tessera project from Heather. I am specifically trying to avoid motley/stripe mixing with tessera if at all possible. The genes are out there, though. I'm just against intentionally introducing them.

It might also be notable that for some breeders they are just getting into the breading season for the year so the ones they may currently have are leftovers from '17 with a limited selection.

Sunshine Serpents is located in Central Florida. Dan does have some awesome Corns and does herp field trips. I don't remember seeing any Miami's on his website, but you could email him. He's usually fast to respond. I have seen corns similar to Miami's but darker on my own herp adventures, but I just look at them and release them. I'm way over on the West side of Florida so was surprised to see them. I don't know Carol, but some of the pictures she posted of her Miami's were terrific.

Shiari said:

You want to look up Carol Huddleston on Facebook. Her icon is a Miami corn snake. Can't mistake her for anyone else

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Hi THANK YOU! I seriously looked her name up the other day on FB and did NOT see a photo of a corn snake haha (otherwise I definitely would have assumed it was her ) But I typed it in again, and Voila!! she showed up! So maybe I had a typing error? or FB was just showing me Carol Huddlestons in my own area or something. Glad I tried again anyways. Thanks!

Nanci said:

The best way to get in touch with Carol is e-mail.

My website hasn't been updated in FOREVER. There just isn't enough time for everything in my life right now. So I can sympathize with people who never update, now!

I have a nice Miami tessera project from Heather. I am specifically trying to avoid motley/stripe mixing with tessera if at all possible. The genes are out there, though. I'm just against intentionally introducing them.

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I love Motley (wanna get a Motley Hurricane at one point) and the Okeetee Tesseras I see are beautiful as well! I bet a Motley Miami would be really beautiful