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Old 03-06-2012, 06:03 PM   #1
schnebbles
Salmon Ghost

I suppose these aren't easy to come by! I'd love to have one.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 07:11 PM   #2
crackerhead
Do you mean a Coral Ghost or a Salmon Snow? I've never heard of a "Salmon" Ghost. JMG Reptiles has several of both for sale at the moment.

Terri
 
Old 03-07-2012, 12:34 AM   #3
cornsnakeforsale_com
These are a confusing bunch, and I'm not sure there's consensus yet.

Coral ==> http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/speci...guttata/coral/
Coral Ghost ==> http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/speci...a/coral_ghost/
Salmon Snow ==> http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/speci...a/salmon_snow/

I've got coral ghosts and salmon snows (not sure I'll actually part with the salmon snows though).
 
Old 03-07-2012, 08:19 AM   #4
Camby
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These are a confusing bunch, and I'm not sure there's consensus yet.

Coral ==> http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/speci...guttata/coral/
Coral Ghost ==> http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/speci...a/coral_ghost/
Salmon Snow ==> http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/speci...a/salmon_snow/

I've got coral ghosts and salmon snows (not sure I'll actually part with the salmon snows though).
Per Jeff Sr. at JMG, his Coral Ghosts are actually a true Ghost, not an anery strawberry. My understanding is that the coral gene in JMG's coral Ghosts and the Salmon gene in their Salmon Snows is the same gene and is also the same gene as is in SMR's Corals and Salmons. Don and Jeff obtained thier original stock from the same breeder. Maybe someone can correct me if I am wrong, but that was my thought.

dc
 
Old 03-07-2012, 08:25 AM   #5
Nanci
Too bad they can't decide on either "coral" or "salmon" for the name of that gene, then!
 
Old 03-07-2012, 09:08 AM   #6
Camby
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Too bad they can't decide on either "coral" or "salmon" for the name of that gene, then!
Jeff of JMG used to call both of his lines Coral Ghost and Coral Snow. I think someone a while back changed the name to salmon snow. Heck, it's no different than someo f the other already established trade names being changed because the masses decided it need to be. A few examples that jump to mind are Ultra Hypo to Ultramel, Original granite to Terrazzo and Bloodred to Diffused.

dc
 
Old 03-07-2012, 11:04 AM   #7
crackerhead
The name Salmon was coined by Jim from SW Reptiles; I believe he is where it all started; if you don't count the fact that he got his original animals from Don Soderberg's Coral line. Strawberry is part of JMG's animals. I've proven that out by test breeding. I do believe there is something else other than strict line breeding going on though. My guess is something along the lines of Redcoat or Neon in addition to Hypo and Strawberry. Test breeding for that hypothesis will start this season.

Terri
 
Old 07-13-2012, 04:11 PM   #8
Palmetto Reptiles
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The name Salmon was coined by Jim from SW Reptiles; I believe he is where it all started; if you don't count the fact that he got his original animals from Don Soderberg's Coral line. Strawberry is part of JMG's animals. I've proven that out by test breeding. I do believe there is something else other than strict line breeding going on though. My guess is something along the lines of Redcoat or Neon in addition to Hypo and Strawberry breeding for that hypothesis will start this season.

Terri
Ok, I have effectively wasted 1/2 my day reading all I could on all the red/pink genes. How have you definitively tested and proven Strawberry is in the JMG line? I know for sure hypo A is in the JMG Salmon line via our breeding results. Just curious is all.

dc
 
Old 07-13-2012, 11:40 PM   #9
dave partington
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Ok, I have effectively wasted 1/2 my day reading all I could on all the red/pink genes. How have you definitively tested and proven Strawberry is in the JMG line? I know for sure hypo A is in the JMG Salmon line via our breeding results. Just curious is all.

dc
good luck extracting pure strawberry from them, just sayin.....unless of course it's bred to a pure real strawberry, in which case you'll hit (smash into) 50% of the strawberry target, but most likely because 50% of the parents is strawberry. Welcome to polygenetics 101.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 12:25 AM   #10
Palmetto Reptiles
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good luck extracting pure strawberry from them, just sayin.....unless of course it's bred to a pure real strawberry, in which case you'll hit (smash into) 50% of the strawberry target, but most likely because 50% of the parents is strawberry. Welcome to polygenetics 101.
I am not trying to prove strawberry is in the mix of the JMG corals/salmons, I personally don't think it is. Like I said on a separate thread, I think it is a line bred trait. However, Terri stated she had proven it was in there via breeding trals so I wondered exactly what she had done to prove it out.

Truthfully, I could care less what is in there, they are cool looking and why worry about how to try and recreate it when I already have great animals in which to keep line breeding and improve upon.

dc
 
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