I am in Western NYS and have only ordered bulk mice twice. The first time was from American Rodent. I bought sizes crawler up through jumbo. There was very little frozen poop and urine in with the mice. The jumbo size were not as "fresh" as the smaller sizes: the jumbo ziplock bags were quite brittle, the jumbo mice darkened up when thawed and smelled a bit strong. Gypsy only ate one jumbo size once and rejected them ever after so I threw those away. The second time I bulk ordered was from Layne Labs. Yes, I bit the bullet on the shipping. I have only had these mice for one feeding, but they look great! The mice are not stuck to each other at all, are very white, no odor when thawed. I have seen exactly one piece of poop and no frozen urine. The resealable pouches are super thick. The tails and legs are tucked. Yes, it is expensive to ship, but the product is amazing.
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