The Little Cobra That Could: A Drama

members of the Leioheterodon are not at all toxic to humans. Having been bitten by a subadult male L. madagascariensis during a feeding response, and a female adult, I can personally vouch for the fact that there were no toxic reactions to the bite.

Quote above is from a website ^^ Their saliva only "stuns" their prey and is harmless to humans

The only problem would be an allergic reaction.

Originally Posted by COerriccaRN

members of the Leioheterodon are not at all toxic to humans. Having been bitten by a subadult male L. madagascariensis during a feeding response, and a female adult, I can personally vouch for the fact that there were no toxic reactions to the bite.

Quote above is from a website ^^ Their saliva only "stuns" their prey and is harmless to humans

I don't know...this guy might beg to differ

http://www.herpnet.net/bite/

I don't know...this guy might beg to differ

Yikes! So... are they or aren't they would be my question? I'm glad I kept a mop between me and that little guy.

Originally Posted by COerriccaRN

Yikes! So... are they or aren't they would be my question? I'm glad I kept a mop between me and that little guy.

no, i don't think they are venomous.

I think their saliva, entering into the bloodstream, can cause a nasty reaction.

edit..Ah, I have been proven wrong by my fellow posters, apparently they are technically venomous.

I think their saliva, entering into the bloodstream, can cause a nasty reaction.

Yuck!!!!! Not going to mess with those again

I have GOT to get myself a hognose =)

i think the guy on that site gets bit and waits to see a reaction. if its the site ive seen before. ive heard that they have slight venom and also the saliva theory. do i know for sure? no. but so did the komodo dragon have bacteria filled saliva, which it does. but now it known to be venomous also.

i know that if you let them sit there and chew on you and get whatever into your blood, you could have a reaction. as that site shows.

edit: forgot to say, awesome find. its not uncommon for the defecation either. they do it when playing dead often to make them smell of decay and death. probably especially with the dogs mucking with him as they were probably more aggressive looking than you.

Quote from Dr. Bryan Fry ( Venomdoc) pretty much the expert on venomous snakes:

Heterodon are small, inoffensive snakes that are very appropriate as pets. While they are technically venomous, like most other colubrids, they should not be considered 'hot' or even 'warm'.

http://www.kingsnake.com/toxinology/...hlight=hognose

Don't they have venom glands at the back of their mouths?