I have a friend who was bitten, and he said he was in so much pain he wanted the ER to amputate his hand! But yeah, gilas and beadeds always seem pretty laid back... Actually, I think I know two people who have been bitten by gilas -one of which will die of snake bite in the next 10 years if I had to bet on it. I won't mention his full name, but I'll remember to post "Walter has died," if it happens. He's been bitten by venomous snakes three times since I've known him -twice by coral snakes, and then by a cobra which cost him his collection.