snake id (copper head?)

Originally Posted by crotalis40741

I would like to see better pics of it myself. IF it is a copperhead is one of the weirdest ones I have seen.

I agree--it looks like the juvenile water snakes we have around here--have a more clear pic of the face?

Originally Posted by Nanci

(Any snake can and _will_ make its head into a triangle shape to scare people off).

I can't see the pupils, but that is a heavy-bodied snake, very typical of a copperhead. A same-length ratsnake would be thin like a piece of rope.

True- but when a non- venomous snake does that they have to get the mass from somewhere, they" flatten" their heads. In other words from a top view, their heads look triangular but from the side they get thinner. This snake has too thick a head profile for that.

Rat snakes are pretty thin but can appear larger if recently fed.But rat snakes have a big head that makes their bodies look slimmer. They also aren't known for head flattening as much as posing, biting and tail rattling.

This is my vote (Nerodia fasciata) southern water snake

Originally Posted by crotalis40741

This is my vote (Nerodia fasciata) southern water snake

yup-agree again. this is a link to a copperhead in Alabama- http://www.dcnr.state.al.us/watchabl...s/Snakes/c.cfm

Not a good pic, but here is a young copperhead from here in Ky.

Watersnakes always have those bug-eyes. Like the snake in question. Plus- you see them with those aberrant aztec markings.

I forgot-I also took some pics of copperheads I could show- http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sho...rn+copperheads

Originally Posted by MotleyMedusa7

I forgot-I also took some pics of copperheads I could show- http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sho...rn+copperheads

I want that one in the pic.

that one was pretty!

Would like to cross it with this one found here in Ky. They call it tiger striped copperhead.