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Feeders Any and all issues about raising rats, mice, or anything else that you feed your cornsnakes. |
Cervical dislocation problem
09-09-2013, 04:21 AM
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Cervical dislocation problem
One of the two mice I fed my snake yesterday wouldn't let me pin its head down to perform cervical dislocation for the life of me and jumped up and bit my finger really hard.
I gave up and gave it to my snake live and it bit my snake, hurting some of her scales.
Two questions:
1. Will my snake have a scar or will it heal? It's not an open wound, the scales are still black (it's a cali king), some of them are just visibly deformed.
2. I don't want this to happen again, what to do with mice I can't kill by cervical dislocation? A CO chamber is not an option.
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09-09-2013, 11:37 AM
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Then buy f/t. If you can't get a co2 chamber and you can't get cervical dislocation done and you don't want your snake getting hurt AGAIN from live buying f/t mice seems like the way to go. Your snake will probably be fine but just remember if that bite had been on top of the head in between the eyes or somewhere on the spin your snake could be in bad shape. Just think about that before feeding live next time.
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09-09-2013, 11:39 AM
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Could you wear thin leather gloves to handle the mouse, assuming you can't just buy frozen mice?
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09-09-2013, 02:07 PM
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Whenever we perform CD, we always wear gloves since some of the mice are feisty. All you need is something for their front paws to grab onto and have their back legs in the air, they won't move in that position.
Also, you have to not be squeamish! If you hesitate, even a little, the mouse will either be suffering in pain and paralyzed from only partial CD, or it will get out from under whatever is on their neck. You need to press so hard on their neck it feels like it will break from just pressure and pull on the tail. You have to have this all done in less than a second.
If you can't do that, I suggest buying f/t or build a co2 chamber.
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09-09-2013, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by darth-hayzer
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Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think putting down using co2 via vinegar and baking soda is considered humane
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09-09-2013, 05:32 PM
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If you put a tea towel or dishcloth on the work surface then the mouse 'scrabbles' its front feet trying to get away rather than turning and biting you.
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09-09-2013, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lilmike227
Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think putting down using co2 via vinegar and baking soda is considered humane
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When you mix baking soda with vinegar it creates co2 ..... My understanding is that co2 IS a humane way to put down mice .
So many mice breeders that I talk to put their mice down by using co2 .
Watch that video ..... are they suffering ?
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09-09-2013, 11:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by darth-hayzer
When you mix baking soda with vinegar it creates co2 ..... My understanding is that co2 IS a humane way to put down mice .
So many mice breeders that I talk to put their mice down by using co2 .
Watch that video ..... are they suffering ?
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Yes I know it makes co2, but last time I checked co2 was used in a controlled method. vinegar and baking soda, dry ice and water, etc aren't controlled methods. Most places that put down mice have those tins with co2 in it or something similar where the can control how much you put in. If co2 isn't done right it can be a very scary painful way to die
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09-10-2013, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lilmike227
Yes I know it makes co2, but last time I checked co2 was used in a controlled method. vinegar and baking soda, dry ice and water, etc aren't controlled methods. Most places that put down mice have those tins with co2 in it or something similar where the can control how much you put in. If co2 isn't done right it can be a very scary painful way to die
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I did a lot of research of killing mice humanely , because I am considering of raising feeder mice myself . Read all kinds of methods from using a co2 tank for paintball all the way of using plastic ziplock bags with baking soda and vinegar .
I have not once read and / or heard anything on "bad" co2 making mice suffer in stead of killing them humanely as possible . If you have info on this " bad " co2 that causes suffering in mice , please feel free to share that info.
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