Newbie-ess & problem

"I have followed all the advice about co-habbing such as separate feeding and multiple hides and so forth."

That is not advice on cohabbing, even solitary snakes should be fed in a container seperate from their Viv and have multiple hides...

Originally Posted by Candachan

"I have followed all the advice about co-habbing such as separate feeding and multiple hides and so forth."

That is not advice on cohabbing, even solitary snakes should be fed in a container seperate from their Viv and have multiple hides...

Aw Candice, cut her some slack!
When you are an expert in OH SO MANY areas, it has to be horrible to be so consistantly wrong about your very own animals!

One of my favorite and oft quoted sayings around here is "Its never a problem until it becomes a problem".
In your case, the problem has already manifested itself in one snake not eating. I don't know what other proof you need. Waiting to try again whilst still cohabbing is not the answer. What if it eats this time - and then refuses again next time? How many times before you will admit that it is a problem? The best, safest, smartest thing that you can do for your snakes is to separate them now before it becomes worse. Maybe it isn't what you want to hear, but it is the truth.
Yes, one may be a little stressed to start with a move to a new living environment, but it will settle in and be ready to eat again much quicker than in a continued forced cohabitation with another snake.

You have to understand that people on this forum are passionate about their reptiles. Sometimes they may sound harsh in their replies, but we have seen too many cases of people cohabbing (or other no-no's) that have led to serious injury, sickness or death in snakes. And in a lot of those cases those individuals were given similar advice and chose to ignore it because they didn't believe it was a problem (until it became a problem).
People here aren't worried about hurting individual feelings, they are worried about the health and safety of the snakes first and foremost.

I didn't mean stress in the usual manner, as in 'oh I've had a stressful day', I meant stress (to be specific, distress rather than eustress) caused by a less than ideal environment which is very often signalled in reptiles by a reusal to feed, which is what you were worried about. I'm not going to test blood cortisol levels in my snakes, but I can chart their feeding and growth rates to try to work out if I'm following good husbandry practice.
Hey, That 'never a problem quote' comes from me!

Originally Posted by starsevol

Aw Candice, cut her some slack!
When you are an expert in OH SO MANY areas, it has to be horrible to be so consistantly wrong about your very own animals!

When you've watched 5 friends suicide from a no-blame medical condition as a result of years of abuse they've had from other people and incorrect advice from doctors you can bitch about how I react to know-it-alls.

When you have watched someone you love die in her early 20s from cancer after her doctors told her "cant be that you are too young" you can tell me that its a good idea to blindly follow what others tell you whether they are expert or not.

I've read everything stated and I will do what I have said. conversation closed. Advice - not orders, is what I asked for.

Originally Posted by JemmaUK

When you've watched 5 friends suicide from a no-blame medical condition as a result of years of abuse they've had from other people and incorrect advice from doctors you can bitch about how I react to know-it-alls.

When you have watched someone you love die in her early 20s from cancer after her doctors told her "cant be that you are too young" you can tell me that its a good idea to blindly follow what others tell you whether they are expert or not.

I've read everything stated and I will do what I have said. conversation closed. Advice - not orders, is what I asked for.

Clearly an attention seeker... stop giving it to her!!

Originally Posted by Katie612

Clearly an attention seeker... stop giving it to her!!

I know, from child abuse to rare disease, to rape to cancer, to mystical affinity to animals (when her own husbandry might be killing one of her own)...to telling the future to publishing books.....
And if you are a "normal" person and don't know "what it's like" to blah blah blah then I don't need to listen to youuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....

This thread is about a non feeding hatchling, that apparently is not being properly cared for (or else it would be eating).
We all know why it isn't eating, but the owner seems more inclined to feed the drama llama than to listen and learn....

Originally Posted by JemmaUK

When you've watched 5 friends suicide from a no-blame medical condition as a result of years of abuse they've had from other people and incorrect advice from doctors you can bitch about how I react to know-it-alls.

When you have watched someone you love die in her early 20s from cancer after her doctors told her "cant be that you are too young" you can tell me that its a good idea to blindly follow what others tell you whether they are expert or not.

I've read everything stated and I will do what I have said. conversation closed. Advice - not orders, is what I asked for.

With the amount of things that you have been through, it makes hard reading... Like a soap opera...
Then comes the book writing, inventions and affinity to animals...
Add to that a cross between CSI and a Ghost whisperer who works for the police and can tell things from a photo.....
You missed the smell that surrounds you..... Smells like BS to me.... Sorry I may be too cynical for you, but if any of this is true, Im sorry....
What books have you written and which police force do you work for?.... I'll enquiry and verify your story..

I don't understand how one can publish books, work for the police, etc without having enough money for a second vivarium.

Prices must be really different in the UK. I got my setup for $130.

Originally Posted by Dazzles

I don't understand how one can publish books, work for the police, etc without having enough money for a second vivarium.

Prices must be really different in the UK. I got my setup for $130.

I deleted my first response and replaced it with this...
Prices in the UK are pretty much as cheap as the US where rubs etc are concerned....