Female amel stripe/het; feeding, healthy, and HANDLED!

hiddenhollowherp said:

I replied to your PM, and I do not take medication. God knows what they put in that stuff. I'd rather be crabby than internally mutated.

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According to your logic, when you critiqued the 16 year old girl seeking a snake for her friend with cancer and upset her, we should not believe you because you haven't "proven" this.
If you do in fact have bi-polar disorder, I would hope that you seek help. As stated it is no joke. Just the same it does not excuse your behavior in the least.

hiddenhollowherp said:

I replied to your PM, and I do not take medication. God knows what they put in that stuff. I'd rather be crabby than internally mutated.

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Mere crabbiness is not a symptom of bi-polar disorder; extreme depression, suicidal thoughts, extreme irritablity and mood swings, manic episodes, plus many more, of which crabbiness is not mentioned.

You should have just admitted that you are a rude and immature individual rather than hide behind a very serious mental disorder. Being socially and morally mutated is more acceptable to you?

I am done talking about this.
Please leave my thread, or talk about snakes. One or the other. If you want to fight with me, fight about something else, please.

When I got my snake she had not been handled on a regular basis for over a year. The PO said that since his son left he had just been tossing a mouse in every week and keeping the tank clean. When his son had her she was handled almost daily. The man said she was "scared of him" and struck so he didn't handle her, just when necessary. She has always been a calm snake that can be handled at any time by any of us.
I think it also depends on the snake and you together, I'm not sure you can know that ahead of time. Certainly you won't be like that man, you know snakes better than that, but you can still get a snake that doesn't calm down.
A calm snake is a calm snake whether it lives in a tub or a tank. If I was to guess on "snake think" I would say that they probably feel even more secure in a tub than a glass sided tank. Wouldn't that make for a more content snake overall?

Alan, I don't have a problem with tubs/bins. I tried to explain that in one of my posts, but I don't think anyone saw it. I'd just prefer a snake who is not known to bite, or atleast predictable. Wouldn't anyone prefer that?

I don't know. I doubt I'll be getting much help here anyhow, so I might as well just enjoy the snakes I have. Frosty didn't bite me today when I picked him up, but he is a little graspy. I think the sounds from the computer are scaring him. I'm going to go finish up my paperwork or something.

If you truly do have a bipolar disorder and are not just yanking our collective chain you do have a smidge of sympathy from me. You know, that may explain why your introductory thread seems like it was written by a different person. I can understand your aversion to antidepressants, some people are very sensitive to medication so that the side effects of taking them are worse than the benefits.
This forum, like so many other things in life, is one of those things where you "get more flies with honey than with vinegar".

Sorry, I started to read the whole thread and then skipped it to help answer the question.
I think all that anyone can tell you about a snake is that it doesn't bite them, or has no history of being that way. I'm also quite sure if you force them to be handled they will probably learn in time that it isn't a danger to them...probably.
How old is your Frosty?

sorry, I must have typed that before I saw your response. Just ignore it I guess.

ya need help

hiddenhollowherp said:

Btw, I am bipolar, and I am a small man.

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You made this statement.

jenneses said:

You should have just admitted that you are a rude and immature individual rather than hide behind a very serious mental disorder.

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If your previous statement was a lie then yes you should apologize. If not you should be taking your meds and getting help. Mental illness is NOT a joke!

hiddenhollowherp said:

I am done talking about this.
Please leave my thread, or talk about snakes. One or the other. If you want to fight with me, fight about something else, please.

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Now that you've been called out on the carpet for your bad behavior, you want to drop it. Naw. I don't want to fight, I just want you to OWN up to your posts. Many people have been offended by your words.
Now you use "Please. It seems your mother did teach you a few manners.

hiddenhollowherp said:

Lol. Diagnosed bipolar, aspergers, and some sort of plexy something or other. Rofl.
I think it's very funny that people who are different from the norm are labeled as sick. It's ridiculous.

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I DON'T think it's funny. It's not ridiculous. The only one throwing labels around is YOU!
Health issues are important whether they are mental or physical. If a person was diabetic they would take insulin, no problems, same as a person with mental health issues.

I like being different than the norm. I am happy that way but I would apologize for my behavior if it was deemed offensive (as yours has).

ghosthousecorns said:

This forum, like so many other things in life, is one of those things where you "get more flies with honey than with vinegar".

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Amen Jen!

hiddenhollowherp said:

I am done talking about this.
Please leave my thread, or talk about snakes. One or the other. If you want to fight with me, fight about something else, please.

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It's been stated before, and worthy of repeating now. "This is a PUBLIC forum."
If you start in on us, we're not just going to lay down and let you walk all over us with your claimed disorders. If you're not taking medication that has been recommended to you, you have no right to use ANY disorder as an excuse. It's your choice to remain a troll,

hiddenhollowherp said:

the hippie nobody likes

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, and a general PITA to a group of generally very nice people who, if asked politely and without attitude, are more than willing to help an individual. If YOU have a problem with our community, YOU leave. We're not going to walk all over eggshells just so you can be comfortable. I've stated my opinions on this whole matter, and have been met with nothing but cynicism.

Oh, and this post really got to me, too.

hiddenhollowherp said:

Lol. Diagnosed bipolar, aspergers, and some sort of plexy something or other. Rofl.

I think it's very funny that people who are different from the norm are labeled as sick. It's ridiculous, and I'm not going to fall into it.

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Sorry, but mental diseases are NO laughing matter. If you want to laugh at yourself, TO yourself, that's fine. Don't bring it on here. There are people who are experiencing difficulties and have diseases such as these and are trying to cope with them the best they can. You laughing about it shows nothing than you're either too stupid or too immature to accept help. I don't know how many therapists you've been to/through, but they all have the best intentions. As far as not knowing what goes into the medications that are prescribed, do you know the EXACT diet of a mouse before you feed it off to your snake? Unless you're raising your own mice, I don't think so. Why should their nutrition be less important than yours? Why are you willing to feed something to them that you don't know the exact contents of when you won't put anything into your body when you don't know what it is?

Frosty is probably around four, I don't actually keep track unless I know for sure. He's big enough to breed, but he hasn't yet. He hasn't improved dramaticly since I got him, but now you can kind of tell when he will bite, and when he might bite. There's always a 90% chance with him though. I will admit though that I don't handle him as much as the others simply because it really seems to bother him. I'd rather have him snappy and happy, I guess. He's a pretty snake, so he's fun to watch anywho. I do wish he was a little gentler, but you can't change pets (or people).

Actually, I do know the exact diet of my mice, 'cause I do raise them.

Attenshun, yo: Now Ignoring all posts which are not about snakes.

hiddenhollowherp said:

I do wish he was a little gentler, but you can't change pets (or people).

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Were you referencing yourself on this matter? Considering the things that people COULD have said, I'd say we've been very gentle.

So, I guess Frosty is just destined to be that way. Good thing he's a corn snake, not something more toothy.
Do you think it's uneasiness, or more like territory aggression?

hiddenhollowherp said:

I am done talking about this.
Please leave my thread, or talk about snakes. One or the other. If you want to fight with me, fight about something else, please.

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It bothers me that you are asking us to respect you and your wishes when you can't be bother to respect other people at all. We are not asking you to change but to afford the members here some respect. You've been disrespectful and rude on a number of posts here in your own thread and others.

There are a wide variety of people here, some are hippies and some are very conservative. I don't always agree with someones political views or personal choices, but I respect that they have a right to their opinion and to state their opinions in a respectful manner. It's how you've stated your opinions that is rude and how you've attacked members here that has upset a lot of us here.

Honestly, I think you may have a lot to contribute. But I am not sure if I will be willing to hear. Everyone on this forum loves cornsnakes, and other snakes as well. There is a lot of knowledge and sense of sharing that knowledge here that is very beneficial. We've developed a community here in which I am very proud to be a member. You have a choice to apologize for your mistakes (which so far you've refused to do, when you are so clearly in the wrong) and to continue to be a member of our community, or you can leave and at this point you would not be a loss as you've contributed little but sarcasm and a bad attitude.

You know, Alan, it might be a combination of the two. He will strike if I reach in my hand to clean something up or refill the water dish, but he has never seemed to mistake me for food or anything. He does not like his cool-end hide disturbed at all. He does seem very nervous/agitated when I hold him otherwise though. I think it's just the way he's wired, but I hope it isn't genetic!

I always thought that an animal would eventually get used to something constant that doesn't harm it, but some people have snakes that stay bitey.
I say change his name from Frosty to Feisty.

alan said:

I always thought that an animal would eventually get used to something constant that doesn't harm it, but some people have snakes that stay bitey.

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hiddenhollowherp said:

I think it's just the way he's wired, but I hope it isn't genetic!

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If it's wired that way, I wouldn't breed it. An animal that has genetic issues just passes them on. You would be doing a large disservice to anyone who got the results.

BTW you haven't lived up to your PM. The masses are still waiting...

I don't think you should be breeding anything. Least not until you GROW UP.

You can ignore all the posts about your horrible, childish behavior, but they're still here. You know, if you're going to play with matches, you're going to get burned. You make your bed, you lie in it... But considering the level of maturity your posts have shown, you'd rather not.

Frosty's got good sense.

Lol, Alan, his full name is Frostbite.

Sodga, if it's a fact that they pass on their reputations, then I won't breed Frosty. The last thing I want to contribute to the world is more bitey snakes.