Alabama locality

I hope to eventually make sure the Alabama Corns become as well known as Miami's. I know a couple people that have worked with or do work with the Alabama locality Corns.

After seeing Mica, an unknown aged (adult) female WC Alabama, I got hooked on them in the first place.

So I told Walter, that if he had any more Alabama's he wanted to let go of, to let me know.
He had a 1.1 pair that were offspring of Mica's, from an unknown (wild) male. Mica was gravid when she was caught, & he ended up with a surprise clutch. So I have that pair as well.

Later, I aquired a 1.1 pair of Alabama's het for Hypo, which I will be pairing together this coming season.

Making more Alabama's is on my list for this coming season. I will be holding some back, to continue the Alabama line.
I will also continue to work with Tara, on furthering the Alabama Tessera project that we started.

There are a couple other "Alabama folk" that I hope to work with as well, & I hope to make the Alabama name recognized.

Here are my Alabama's

In order of pictures:
Mica-unk age adult female (WC)
Katzen-2007 offspring of Mica's-sired by unknown wild male
Silber-2007 offspring of Mica's-sired by unknown wild male
Tora-2008 Alabama het Hypo (from Hypo Okeetee female X Alabama male)
Tane-2008 Alabama het Hypo (from Hypo Okeetee female X Alabama male)

*Tora & Tane will likely be available after the 2012 breeding season.

Those of you with Alabama's, feel free to post pics of them here!

Heather, thank you so much for introducing me to this type of snake. I've glanced by them a few times and made a huge mistake by looking over them. They are gorgeous. That is an understatement actually.. seeing them in person is unbelievable.

I think research on this 'locality' morph is a great idea and an amazing undertaking. I also wonder if there isn't a recessive (or dominant) gene involved that produces the really dark (and shiny) overcoat.
This will be a fun project! I appreciate that you allowed me be a part of it.

Hi Heather,

I'm in. Let me give you the run down on Sunshine. In 2009, I found this odd looking snake, that resembled a corn but looked also like a gray rat snake. Not knowing what the heck it could be, I posted her on this forum. After a few post, I found out Walter had a pair and immediately we agreed it was a Alabama corn snake. A few weeks later, She laid a clutch of 10 eggs. Awesome...... I ended up sending a pair to Virgina (I think). Later on he said that they stopped eating and passed(bummer). I kept 2 to continue the line. The next season I breed her to an Anery to see if perhaps she was some form of Anery type snake. Nope, most of the babies came out normal with one exception(red), I kept. Loving the silver coration, burnt red(brick red) saddles and the abnormal amout of yellow these guys seem to have, I was wondering if I could get an Amel version and if it would look any different. Perhaps with more yellow, or even that brick red coloration instead of the normal reds. So I paired her up with my Striped Amel Male, Crush. Out of 10 eggs only 5 hatched. 2 females and 3 males. 1 female did not make it. The other 4 are eating like champs. So far that has been my projects with these amazing looking snakes.

Sunshine


Gray(09 fml AL)


Al (09 male AL)


Red (10 male AL) het Anery motley ph hypo


3 of the 4 (2011 AL) het Amel Stripe ph anery
Fml


Male


Male

Tara80 said:

Heather, thank you so much for introducing me to this type of snake. I've glanced by them a few times and made a huge mistake by looking over them. They are gorgeous. That is an understatement actually.. seeing them in person is unbelievable.

I think research on this 'locality' morph is a great idea and an amazing undertaking. I also wonder if there isn't a recessive (or dominant) gene involved that produces the really dark (and shiny) overcoat.
This will be a fun project! I appreciate that you allowed me be a part of it.

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I'm happy to have found a friend that lives fairly close, that has the same taste in morphs, so that we can work together on projects.

Buzzard said:

Hi Heather,

I'm in. Let me give you the run down on Sunshine. In 2009, I found this odd looking snake, that resembled a corn but looked also like a gray rat snake. Not knowing what the heck it could be, I posted her on this forum. After a few post, I found out Walter had a pair and immediately we agreed it was a Alabama corn snake. A few weeks later, She laid a clutch of 10 eggs. Awesome...... I ended up sending a pair to Virgina (I think). Later on he said that they stopped eating and passed(bummer). I kept 2 to continue the line. The next season I breed her to an Anery to see if perhaps she was some form of Anery type snake. Nope, most of the babies came out normal with one exception(red), I kept. Loving the silver coration, burnt red(brick red) saddles and the abnormal amout of yellow these guys seem to have, I was wondering if I could get an Amel version and if it would look any different. Perhaps with more yellow, or even that brick red coloration instead of the normal reds. So I paired her up with my Striped Amel Male, Crush. Out of 10 eggs only 5 hatched. 2 females and 3 males. 1 female did not make it. The other 4 are eating like champs. So far that has been my projects with these amazing looking snakes.

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I was hoping you would chime in.
I am so glad there are others working with these beautiful snakes!
Thanks for adding the pics!

Here are my babies from the first Alabama project we worked on. They are out of Mica, & Tara's Tessera, Taz. (They're in the Alabama Tessera progression thread as well).

The ground color is turning out really cool, & I cannot wait to see how they look full grown!

I can not tell on the 1st 2 but the last 2 you can see the AL trait in the back half of the bodies. The next couple of years are going to be exciting for you, I can see it coming

Fingers, toes, and eyes crossed for you on that project.

Yes, you can see it & I'm excited to see them full grown!
I also wonder about what Tara mentioned, that there might be some sort of recessive or dominant gene at play.

Another curious thing I noticed, was that a couple of these babies have het Sunkissed type markers, where the other Tessera clutch did not.

I will have to take a few pictures of mine for you Heather, once I find my camera!
We've spent the majority of the week looking for it and we have no clue where it could be!

I hope you find your camera soon!
I need to take more recent pics of Allie & Stone. They're slower growers, & I haven't bothered them as much for pics. I have more pics of Devon & Zayvion, since they have been growing like weeds!

nwheather said:

Yes, you can see it & I'm excited to see them full grown!
I also wonder about what Tara mentioned, that there might be some sort of recessive or dominant gene at play.

Another curious thing I noticed, was that a couple of these babies have het Sunkissed type markers, where the other Tessera clutch did not.

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We should know soon about the recessive-ness of this gene. We talked a few months back, how it could be a sex linked genes as I have noticed the females tend to be more silverish and the males a burnt orange-ish type tone to them.

This was a male that I found hit by a car. We tried to bring him back but he was too far gone. (Also Pike county)

I agree, I really thing there's something that is sex linked with these guys, as I have yet to hear of anyone who has found a male that is grey like Mica or Sunshine. I'd love to find a male that was, to focus on that color of Alabama's but I think you're right, I think males are going to just be more of a golden/bronze/burnt-orange/copper type color.

Oooo, I wanna play !!!..........LOL

I just noticed this thread Heather. Hope you don't mind if I join in??

Here are pics. of the only Bama's I have left. These are captive hatched 2010 F1s from a pair of wild caught adults from my area, which is the Northeast region of Alabama...........Dekalb Co. to be exact.

I've taken more of an interest to the rusty brunt orange coloration over the silverish coloration in the Bama corns,
(not to take anything away from Mica she is a very attractive snake), however as you can see, my female is starting to develope just a hint of the silverish color on the latter part of her body. Not quite anywhere near as much as Mica, but my girl is getting some.

There is a dimorphism between male & female in this area as well.

Image 1) Male ~ Dekalb Co. locality
Image 2) Female ~ Dekalb Co. locality

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!

Of course Walter! You're the reason I have Alabama's!

Thank you for joining in!
Beautiful snakes! They're 2010's?

nwheather said:

Of course Walter! You're the reason I have Alabama's!

Thank you for joining in!
Beautiful snakes! They're 2010's?

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Yes, these are 2010 hatch.

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!

Here is a Female Alabama I have thought it was a male at first before she layed eggs. She was probed by 3 different people and was probed as a male. :shrugs:
Now I just need an alabama male to breed to her. I might breed my tessera male I got in a trade to her in the future. This pic does not do her justice she has more silver then what is showing.

Is that the one we talked about a breeding loan, & I asked if you were sure was a male, & then "he ended up being a she"?
She is beautiful.
Did you see the F1 babies from the Alabama X Tessera clutch that Tara & I produced last year? I think you should definitely do that pairing, IMO, you will love the babies!

Very nice Kevin. It can be real hard to catch the true silver/ gray that they have. Do you know which county yours is from?

And the hunt continues for the elusive male Alabama corn snake...

Oh, I would love an Alabama Tessera! Can't wait to see how they progress!