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Scale less Corns anyone?
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:59 PM   #51
Roy Munson
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I agree with what you're saying, but that doesn't answer WHY. The way I understand emoryi was bred to make bigger, heartier snakes. Although I own a Creamsicle, at the time I would have said WHY does a corn snake have to be bigger...? If this is playing (can't think of another word) with genetics, just for the sake of can we... I know the arguement can be made it has been done in the past with good and bad results I just go back to WHY?
Emoryi was bred with corn (when they were considered subspecies of the same species) to make the hatchlings bigger, not necessarily the adults. Bigger hatchlings are easier to feed.
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:06 PM   #52
susang
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Emoryi was bred with corn (when they were considered subspecies of the same species) to make the hatchlings bigger, not necessarily the adults. Bigger hatchlings are easier to feed.
OK, that I understand, but why does one want a snake with no scales?
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:07 PM   #53
Roy Munson
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OK, that I understand, but why does one want a snake with no scales?
Because you think it looks cool. Why would you want a snake with no melanin?
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:09 PM   #54
susang
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Because you think it looks cool. Why would you want a snake with no melanin?
I give.
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #55
Roy Munson
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I give.
I didn't mean to twist your arm until you said "uncle".

I know where you're coming from. I don't get the appeal either. But heck, there are color/pattern morphs that do nothing for me either...
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #56
patm1313
Um, this is probably fake. The pigments for skin are in the scales not the skin itself. Thats proven when you see the white skin between the scales. And plus, no-one wants scale less corns. they would be freaky and uncool 2 handle.
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:17 PM   #57
susang
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I didn't mean to twist your arm until you said "uncle".

I know where you're coming from. I don't get the appeal either. But heck, there are color/pattern morphs that do nothing for me either...
You didn't, it's not the color, pattern, morph thing. While it may look cool, not sure on that yet. Does the snake pay a price, I mean I know it's just a snake, but isn't that what they said when they used rats for testing, or any other living thing.
So my question is will a scaleless snake help in future corn genetics, hence the WHY.
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:18 PM   #58
Roy Munson
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Um, this is probably fake. The pigments for skin are in the scales not the skin itself. Thats proven when you see the white skin between the scales. And plus, no-one wants scale less corns. they would be freaky and uncool 2 handle.
I've seen scaleless Texas rat snakes with my own eyes, in person. There are other mutant scaleless reptiles as well. I can't verify if the snakes in the pics are pure corn, but they are truly scaleless rat snakes of some sort.
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:26 PM   #59
Roy Munson
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You didn't, it's not the color, pattern, morph thing. While it may look cool, not sure on that yet. Does the snake pay a price, I mean I know it's just a snake, but isn't that what they said when they used rats for testing, or any other living thing.
So my question is will a scaleless snake help in future corn genetics, hence the WHY.
I'm guessing that with proper care, the scaleless snake does not pay much of a price. I would think that water-loss would be a concern, but I don't know. If this can be compensated for, then maybe it's no big deal. Amels can't be exposed to much natural light, or any other uv lighting, but this isn't a concern since they don't need lighting. So this shortcoming becomes a dead issue.

But there are albinos of other reptile species that DO require uv lighting to synthesize vitaminD. This would be more of an ethical concern for me-- keeping an animal that requires uv to be healthy, but can't tolerate it.

How does any appearance mutation "help" in future corn genetics? Some claim that the lavender gene carries with it increased potential for spinal development problems. This hasn't stopped lavs from becoming extremely popular.
 
Old 02-25-2008, 04:50 PM   #60
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Then here's a site you may like better than this one:

http://www.care-bears.com/25th/



I'm not sure how I feel about these yet. Fortunately, Brian lives about 15 miles from us. I may have to see if I can take a road trip over there and check these out in person. I'm sure I'll come back with a better understanding, and probably more corns too!

Kathy
 

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