king snake influence in tessera morph?

And what are you hoping to prove by this pairing?

Hoping to prove, or disprove, Joe's theory.
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sho...&postcount=130
http://www.davesfiles.com/Random/inn...Hybrids-JP.jpg
Looking for 50% visually striped hatchlings.

That still wouldn't necessarily prove anything. Motley patterns have shown up in boas. Stripes are in garter snakes, kings, and corns. There is an old-world ratsnake with a dominant tessera-like pattern mutation.

The fact that a california king snake and an old world ratsnake can have similar patterns just shows this breeding will not prove anything.

We can actually take this even further.

Cats and mice both have siamese patterns.

Rabbits and mice and rats share a great many patterns between them, though rabbits are not rodents.

Cattle, sheep, and pigs all have split hooves.

Originally Posted by Shiari

That still wouldn't necessarily prove anything. Motley patterns have shown up in boas. Stripes are in garter snakes, kings, and corns. There is an old-world ratsnake with a dominant tessera-like pattern mutation.

The fact that a california king snake and an old world ratsnake can have similar patterns just shows this breeding will not prove anything.

We can actually take this even further.

Cats and mice both have siamese patterns.

Rabbits and mice and rats share a great many patterns between them, though rabbits are not rodents.

Cattle, sheep, and pigs all have split hooves.

That's not the point.

Everyone knows similar patterns show in similar animals.

What Dave is trying to prove is that a visually striped cal king cross will NOT produce visually striped offspring in the FIRST generation when bred with a corn snake.

Except he's not using a pure cali-king. He says she's 75% corn snake. Doesn't this mean that the stripe.... was probably there when her 50% parent was bred to a 100% corn snake? That means it already was produced wasn't it?

Again, not the point.

The male she is being bred to is not carrying the stripe gene.

The point of this breeding is to test and see if the stripe from cal king influenced animals is DOMINANT like Joe supposedly claims it is. Anyone with a half a brain knows Joe's theory is bunk, Dave is just going the extra mile by proving it.

I'm not seeing anything about that hybrid female being homozygous OR heterozygous for stripe herself?

Well I am pretty sure Dave would know if she was striped or not!

Cali-King stripe pattern is dominant to the 'typical' pattern.

http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/con...4/238.abstract

There is a good chance the striping on the female being used IS kingsnake dominant-stripe.

That said, I do NOT believe tessera are from striped cali-kings. The fact that cali-kings AND that old world ratsnake both can independently make a dominant stripe pattern weakens part of the "oooooo hibird!" hypothesis. It's popped up multiple places before, so why not in corns?

Originally Posted by Shiari

I'm not seeing anything about that hybrid female being homozygous OR heterozygous for stripe herself?

I must be speaking Portuguese or something...

The point of this breeding is to test and see if the stripe from cal king influenced animals is DOMINANT like Joe supposedly claims it is.

He is testing to see if THAT PATTERN, which comes from a cal king influence, is DOMINANT.

The male is 100% pure with no king influence.

The f1 animals should not look like the mother.

He is comparing to Joe's theory. Did you read Joe's theory? That might help.