Peanut Lover
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't have brought that up. It's a joke my roommate and I have. It wasn't meant to be stereotyping. Poor Peanut, the troubled and confused snake.
When I clean adult male Balls at work, I always check the vent
For the record, I don't agree with potty training either. My snakes crap in their containers all the time, usually on the glass or underneath the aspen. One took a massive crap down the side of her tub, it was pretty gross! Their vivs wash and so do your hands and clothes.
But, I think attacking someone because of their habits is rude and uncalled for. It really shows the age of some people and that they weren't taught common courtesy. You can share advice and knowledge without coming across as a spoiled brat. Bethany did so quite eloquently I think.
Something else, I have heard of people potty training their birds. So why not snakes, too? If they are used to being soaked and used to paper towels then it won't stress them out. It's just a matter of acclimating them to that sort of handling.
My snakes have always been fine with me touching them where I need to. Should I need to help them out of a bad shed or whatever, it's like they know it needs to be done and they hold still while I work. I try to handle all my snakes a couple times a week and get them used to being touched. I love having them out, almost as much as they love hiding under my hair. They may not NEED us, but they can be conditioned to trust us and to be handled.
What's the point of having a snake as a pet if you never do anything with it? That doesn't make sense to me at all.
This thread got way nastier than it needed to.
Hahahahah yeah it did. I pretty much got called a weirdo...
Personally, I think the more you neglect a snake the better it does. The less you handle them, move them around screw with them, the better they do. Sure clean the cage once a week, change the water twice weekly. But if you don't bother the snake, usually they do so much better. I know this is a cornsnake forum and the people here are very pro snake attention. I have worked and do work with a huge variety of snakes, and this is what I see.
I love reptiles, which is why I am a realist. I know that my handling of the animals may cause some stress, which is why I try and do it as little as possible. I don't know it all, but I love the animals enough to pursue a deeper knowledge of reptiles, and know that from my experience and the experience of others, handling is stressful on snakes. Baby corns, can drop dead from stress, and I have seen it happen. And yes, water is like a laxative for snakes. Water that is lukewarm will help the snake to void if it is trying. I don't know it all, and I certainly am not picking at someone, but I have heard a lot in my 10 years of keeping reptiles, but this is just the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard...My snake has retained feces for weeks at a time. Once he is put into a water bath, he will dispell them immdiatley or within a few minutes. I've also had times when he was due to defecate for quite a long time. He spent a few minutes in the water, and nothing happened. He then later would decided to use the bathroom on my hand, arm, carpet, etc. Water doesn't work as a "laxative". Snakes are not like some rodents, which have no control over bladder or bowel movements. They can defecate/musk/etc. at their own will...
Snakes may not like their humans, but they are pets. They do tolerate us, and they do it quite well obviously... otherwise healthy snakes don't just drop dead from the stress of being handled properly. If you're so against handling captive bread reptiles, why would you be in the buisness of breeding, raising, and selling reptiles as PETS where they will have continuous huiman contact and handling. Don't get me wrong, I love snakes to no end, but it's just a snake. They're not so delicate and complicated. They eat, breathe, drink, poop, smell, avoid predators, live...
Also, carrying a small baby corn in a paper towel isn't that big of a deal. I'm sure the OP makes sure the paper towel is secure, and the snake might actually prefer the more secluded, darker evironement of the paper towel to being waved around 5 feet above the ground clinging to the hands of a human...
The snake is healthy.. quite obviously eating meals, and I'm sure the short soaks it's recieving have been nothing more than beneficial towards the animal (especially in shedding). All your talk about stressing the snake and disbilief of why a snake keeper would care for an animal different that you do really has no evidence to back it up.
You may have been raising reptiles for years, but so have many other people on here. Each person has their own way of caring for their animals and that doesn't mean that only one person can be right. I'm sure you could pick and prod at every owner on this site and find at least one thing they have done that could possibly have caused stress to a snake. In my opinion you're really coming off as someone who feels they "know it all" I don't see any sick or endangered snake in this situation, so why you have decided to attack another person's way of doing things baffles me..