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Lavender Butter
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:18 AM   #1
wasuslitherin
Lavender Butter

I have a Hypo Motley het Lavender Butter female. I was wondering which make I should breed her to to get The closest I can too lavender butter?

Bernard- High pink Lavender het Hypo Bloodred, ph Amel,Anery.
Tornado- Lavender Motley het Amel stripe
Adonis- Ultramel Motley het caramel stripe
Knot- Hypo Aztec
Alarik- (dark)Anery
Neville- Amel stripe het caramel
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Also If I can get any immediate Morphs, like something other then the everyday pet store stuff, out of these..it would be awesome!
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And what can I pair with these females from the males above?

Annebelle- Candy Cane
Maddie- Amel het caramel motley
Eureeka- butter
Scotch- normal
Turtle- Goldust motley
Paison- Amel
 
Old 09-29-2010, 07:03 AM   #2
Susan
If your ultimate goal is lavender butters, with that female, all of your male options will only give you possible hets. With that said, the first pairing I would do would be with Tornado. That way, you will get some great offspring to start out with. Keep a few opal motleys from that clutch. Next year, breed the hypo motley to Neville and keep some of the butter motleys. When all those babies are mature, breed them together and keep your fingers crossed that some picked up the possible het. If not, you will at least get some guaranteed hets to pair together in a few more years to get what you want. Your other option is to purchase a male now that is at least het, or better yet, homozygous for amel, caramel and lavender to pair with your hypo motley female.

As for your other pairings, I would do:
Annebelle X Tornado
Maddie X Adonis or Neville
Eureeka X Adonis
Scotch X take your pick, you'll get normals with hets, that's all, unless you use the aztec and maybe you'll get some of those
Turtle X Neville
Paison X Bernard to test him for het amel status and I like high pink corns.
 
Old 09-29-2010, 09:51 AM   #3
wasuslitherin
Thanks!! ..............
 
Old 09-29-2010, 10:38 AM   #4
Yarmuck
Or if you want to go the more solid route, though taking some time longer...

Breed Tornado to Turtle:

Male: Lavender, Motley het Amel, Stripe

Female: Gold Dust, Motley ( Ultramel, Caramel, Motley )

Phenotype:
1 / 2 Motley het Lavender, Caramel, Amel or Ultra 50% poss het. Stripe
1 / 4 Ultramel, Motley het Lavender, Caramel 50% poss het. Stripe
1 / 4 Amel, Motley het Lavender, Caramel 50% poss het. Stripe

Keep back an Ultramel Motley and Amel Motley (or if you want better odds for just a butter lavender keep back 2 Amel Motleys)

Breed the babies back and you get this for an Ultramel/Amel pairup-

Male: Ultramel, Motley het Caramel, Lavender

Female: Amel, Motley het Caramel, Lavender

Phenotype:
9 / 32 Ultramel, Motley 66% poss het. Lavender, Caramel
9 / 32 Amel, Motley 66% poss het. Lavender, Caramel
3 / 32 Gold Dust, Motley ( Ultramel, Caramel, Motley ) 66% poss het. Lavender
3 / 32 Opal, Motley ( Amel, Lavender, Motley ) 66% poss het. Caramel
3 / 32 Butter, Motley ( Amel, Caramel, Motley ) 66% poss het. Lavender
3 / 32 Ultramel Lavender, Motley ( Ultramel, Lavender, Motley ) 66% poss het. Caramel
1 / 32 Gold Dust, Lavender, Motley ( Ultramel, Caramel, Lavender, Motley )
1 / 32 Butter, Lavender, Motley ( Amel, Caramel, Lavender, Motley )

Or a more focused Amel/Amel Breeding

Male: Amel, Motley het Caramel, Lavender

Female: Amel, Motley het Caramel, Lavender

Phenotype:
9 / 16 Amel, Motley 66% poss het. Lavender, Caramel
3 / 16 Opal, Motley ( Amel, Lavender, Motley ) 66% poss het. Caramel
3 / 16 Butter, Motley ( Amel, Caramel, Motley ) 66% poss het. Lavender
1 / 16 Butter, Lavender, Motley ( Amel, Caramel, Lavender, Motley )

It may take a few more years, but at least you know the hets will be there for sure, instead of a bit of gambling.
 
Old 09-29-2010, 12:02 PM   #5
wasuslitherin
Thanks, Turtle is missing right now, so If I find her before brumation time then She will be breeding, but if not I wont breed her.
 
Old 09-29-2010, 02:04 PM   #6
wasuslitherin
I also have a Opal male, no known hets.
 
Old 09-29-2010, 04:42 PM   #7
fyrefocks
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Originally Posted by wasuslitherin View Post
I also have a Opal male, no known hets.
Breed the opal male to the butter female. The babies will all be amels het lav, caramel. Keep a trio and do a sib x sib pairing. To me, that will be the quickest way to achieve your goal.
 
Old 09-29-2010, 06:06 PM   #8
carnivorouszoo
You don't have to brumate to breed. So if you find her and she is healthy, after making sure she is ok you should be able to breed no problems.
 
Old 09-29-2010, 06:07 PM   #9
carnivorouszoo
Oh and I'd love to borrow Knot for a breeding. He'd be great to test my anery female for being a ghost!
 

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