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Old 05-21-2014, 12:36 AM   #11
Gabby1970
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I have absolutely NO experience in this, but what seems logical to me is to pull Mean Girl out now, wait for the other two to have their babies (or are sure they are pregnant) THEN switch them out and put Mean Girl (if she isn't already pregnant) back with the male. Since time and numbers aren't dire, two mamas should provide you with enough for now.
That's the way I'm leaning right now.
 
Old 05-21-2014, 08:44 PM   #12
smigon
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That's the way I'm leaning right now.
I think it's a plan! Take the Mean Girl out for an evening, sit her down and tell her that bullying CAN hurt the other girls, that they can end up emotionally scarred from it, and that she needs to be their friend. Set them up for a girls' night out (virgin grain drinks, they are trying to get pregnant, remember!) and hopefully they can all live together like good polygamists.
 
Old 05-21-2014, 09:01 PM   #13
drybgerg
I've never had good luck setting up females unless done right when they were weaned (seems like there is always one mean girl!). What I'm doing now is keeping everybody separate, I'll just drop a female in with the male when I want, I'll leave her for 4 days or so and then put her back in her own tub. I've got one male and 3 females going right now.

I'm not trying to get to many feeders ahead as I only have the 2 snakes right now.

I believe right now in the freezer I got 12 pinks, which is good for 5-7 weeks for my youngest (depending on sheds and when she moves up to doubles). I've also got 10 or so weanlings for my oldest in there as well. I've currently got one mouse with 12 hoppers and another pregnant. I'll grow the hoppers out to weanlings. In about a week or two the third female will be bred.
 
Old 05-21-2014, 10:13 PM   #14
Gabby1970
Yeah, I HAD to get her out. The other 2 girls have visible wounds now. I feel horrible for letting it get to that point. What I plan to do is pick a couple of strong females from the first litters to be my breeders. I'll feed the mean girl to my friend's 8yr old anery, and let the 2 wounded girls live out their lives in peace. I feel like that's the least I can do after locking them in with that psycho girl.
 
Old 05-22-2014, 06:35 PM   #15
smigon
And you are okay with doing the cervical dislocation? I could never bring myself to do that, I won't even watch the video in the sticky at the top of the page! Feeding them to snakes doesn't bother me at all, but watching or doing the killing is not for me.
 
Old 05-22-2014, 06:46 PM   #16
Nanci
The video is okay. I'm the one who stickied it. If _I_ can watch it and not be traumatized...
 
Old 05-22-2014, 09:22 PM   #17
Gabby1970
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And you are okay with doing the cervical dislocation? I could never bring myself to do that, I won't even watch the video in the sticky at the top of the page! Feeding them to snakes doesn't bother me at all, but watching or doing the killing is not for me.
I watched the video. It looks pretty simple, but I can't help but worry that I'll screw it up. I'll probably end up making a little CO2 gas chamber. They seemed to go peacefully in the videos I saw.
 
Old 05-22-2014, 10:01 PM   #18
drybgerg
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I watched the video. It looks pretty simple, but I can't help but worry that I'll screw it up. I'll probably end up making a little CO2 gas chamber. They seemed to go peacefully in the videos I saw.
For me CO2 is the way to go. I can easily do 20 hoppers at a time with no problems, can probably do more if I needed to you're really only limited by the size of your chamber.

I used to be in management at a pork processing plant and we used CO2 chambers for the hogs and it was so much more peaceful for them than the alternatives.
 
Old 05-22-2014, 10:10 PM   #19
Myca
Honestly, I would rather do cervical dislocation. They seem to suffocate on CO2. I watched the video that Nanci posted. I think the key is to be smooth and easy. Am I imaging that the mice appear to be suffocating? All I think of when I see that is the gas chambers in Nazi Germany and it bothers me a lot.
 
Old 05-22-2014, 10:21 PM   #20
drybgerg
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Honestly, I would rather do cervical dislocation. They seem to suffocate on CO2. I watched the video that Nanci posted. I think the key is to be smooth and easy. Am I imaging that the mice appear to be suffocating? All I think of when I see that is the gas chambers in Nazi Germany and it bothers me a lot.
The brain shuts down before the suffocation takes place, the mouse feels nothing. Some information here.
 

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