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Old 01-17-2006, 07:52 PM   #1
Noe..gr
Question Opal X Pewter?

Since I'm a bit lazy,and looking for a quick answer,what would i get if i breed an opal to a pewter,in the F1 and the F2 generation?Is the lavenderbloodred to far to reach?
 
Old 01-18-2006, 02:47 PM   #2
Noe..gr
I have the 2006 cornsnake guide in hand few days now,but since I'm a slow learner I need the information to place my order to a friend of mine from Germany.Things here in Greece are in embryo face with snakes.Does anyone knows how to use an online predictor or something for a quick answer?Thanks in advance.
 
Old 01-18-2006, 02:59 PM   #3
colinmcc
According to the genetics program I've got (can't remember where I got it from or I'd post a link) you'll get:

F1:

100% normals

50.00% het. Blizzard, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
50.00% het. Snow, het. Pewter, het. Lavender

F2 (if you breed one of each of the above to each other):

10.55% Amel
10.55% Charcoal
3.52% Blizzard
10.55% Lavender
3.52% Opal
3.52% Charcoal, Lavender
1.17% Blizzard, Lavender
10.55% Bloodred
3.52% Amel, Bloodred
3.52% Pewter
1.17% Blizzard, Bloodred
3.52% Lavender, Bloodred
1.17% Opal, Bloodred
1.17% Pewter, Lavender
0.39% Blizzard, Lavender, Bloodred

0.39% het. Amel
0.20% het. Anery A
0.39% het. Snow
0.39% het. Charcoal
0.78% het. Blizzard
0.39% het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.78% het. Snow, het. Charcoal
0.39% het. Lavender
0.78% het. Opal
0.39% het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.78% het. Snow, het. Lavender
0.78% het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
1.56% het. Blizzard, het. Lavender
0.78% het. Anery A, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
1.56% het. Snow, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.39% het. Bloodred
0.78% het. Amel, het. Bloodred
0.39% het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% het. Snow, het. Bloodred
0.78% het. Pewter
1.56% het. Blizzard, het. Bloodred
0.78% het. Anery A, het. Pewter
1.56% het. Snow, het. Pewter
0.78% het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% het. Opal, het. Bloodred
0.78% het. Anery A, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% het. Snow, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% het. Pewter, het. Lavender
3.13% het. Blizzard, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% het. Anery A, het. Pewter, het. Lavender
3.13% het. Snow, het. Pewter, het. Lavender
0.20% Amel
0.20% Amel, het. Anery A
0.39% Amel, het. Charcoal
0.39% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.39% Amel, het. Lavender
0.39% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.78% Amel, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.78% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.39% Amel, het. Bloodred
0.39% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% Amel, het. Pewter
0.78% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Pewter
0.78% Amel, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.78% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% Amel, het. Pewter, het. Lavender
1.56% Amel, het. Anery A, het. Pewter, het. Lavender
0.20% Charcoal
0.39% Charcoal, het. Amel
0.20% Charcoal, het. Anery A
0.39% Charcoal, het. Snow
0.39% Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.78% Charcoal, het. Opal
0.39% Charcoal, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.78% Charcoal, het. Snow, het. Lavender
0.39% Charcoal, het. Bloodred
0.78% Charcoal, het. Amel, het. Bloodred
0.39% Charcoal, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% Charcoal, het. Snow, het. Bloodred
0.78% Charcoal, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% Charcoal, het. Opal, het. Bloodred
0.78% Charcoal, het. Anery A, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
1.56% Charcoal, het. Snow, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.20% Blizzard
0.20% Blizzard, het. Anery A
0.39% Blizzard, het. Lavender
0.39% Blizzard, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.39% Blizzard, het. Bloodred
0.39% Blizzard, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% Blizzard, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.78% Blizzard, het. Anery A, het. Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.20% Lavender
0.39% Lavender, het. Amel
0.20% Lavender, het. Anery A
0.39% Lavender, het. Snow
0.39% Lavender, het. Charcoal
0.78% Lavender, het. Blizzard
0.39% Lavender, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.78% Lavender, het. Snow, het. Charcoal
0.39% Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.78% Lavender, het. Amel, het. Bloodred
0.39% Lavender, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% Lavender, het. Snow, het. Bloodred
0.78% Lavender, het. Pewter
1.56% Lavender, het. Blizzard, het. Bloodred
0.78% Lavender, het. Anery A, het. Pewter
1.56% Lavender, het. Snow, het. Pewter
0.20% Opal
0.20% Opal, het. Anery A
0.39% Opal, het. Charcoal
0.39% Opal, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.39% Opal, het. Bloodred
0.39% Opal, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% Opal, het. Pewter
0.78% Opal, het. Anery A, het. Pewter
0.20% Charcoal, Lavender
0.39% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Amel
0.20% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Anery A
0.39% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Snow
0.39% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.78% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Amel, het. Bloodred
0.39% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.78% Charcoal, Lavender, het. Snow, het. Bloodred
0.20% Blizzard, Lavender
0.20% Blizzard, Lavender, het. Anery A
0.39% Blizzard, Lavender, het. Bloodred
0.39% Blizzard, Lavender, het. Anery A, het. Bloodred
0.20% Bloodred
0.39% Bloodred, het. Amel
0.20% Bloodred, het. Anery A
0.39% Bloodred, het. Snow
0.39% Bloodred, het. Charcoal
0.78% Bloodred, het. Blizzard
0.39% Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.78% Bloodred, het. Snow, het. Charcoal
0.39% Bloodred, het. Lavender
0.78% Bloodred, het. Opal
0.39% Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.78% Bloodred, het. Snow, het. Lavender
0.78% Bloodred, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
1.56% Bloodred, het. Blizzard, het. Lavender
0.78% Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
1.56% Bloodred, het. Snow, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.20% Amel, Bloodred
0.20% Amel, Bloodred, het. Anery A
0.39% Amel, Bloodred, het. Charcoal
0.39% Amel, Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.39% Amel, Bloodred, het. Lavender
0.39% Amel, Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.78% Amel, Bloodred, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.78% Amel, Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal, het. Lavender
0.20% Pewter
0.39% Pewter, het. Amel
0.20% Pewter, het. Anery A
0.39% Pewter, het. Snow
0.39% Pewter, het. Lavender
0.78% Pewter, het. Opal
0.39% Pewter, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.78% Pewter, het. Snow, het. Lavender
0.20% Blizzard, Bloodred
0.20% Blizzard, Bloodred, het. Anery A
0.39% Blizzard, Bloodred, het. Lavender
0.39% Blizzard, Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Lavender
0.20% Lavender, Bloodred
0.39% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Amel
0.20% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Anery A
0.39% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Snow
0.39% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Charcoal
0.78% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Blizzard
0.39% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.78% Lavender, Bloodred, het. Snow, het. Charcoal
0.20% Opal, Bloodred
0.20% Opal, Bloodred, het. Anery A
0.39% Opal, Bloodred, het. Charcoal
0.39% Opal, Bloodred, het. Anery A, het. Charcoal
0.20% Pewter, Lavender
0.39% Pewter, Lavender, het. Amel
0.20% Pewter, Lavender, het. Anery A
0.39% Pewter, Lavender, het. Snow
0.20% Blizzard, Lavender, Bloodred
0.20% Blizzard, Lavender, Bloodred, het. Anery A

Holy crap!



If you breed two of the same type from the F1 you also get masses of possible combinations .... not quite as many as above though.

*NOTE* - I should add, I know virually nix about genetics, especially involving the number hets the above pairings produce. So, if the above is complete rubbish I absolve myself of all blame.
 
Old 01-18-2006, 03:20 PM   #4
Noe..gr
Many thanks.Although I think there's something wrong.That "het snow"....... Doesn't matter.
 
Old 01-18-2006, 03:23 PM   #5
colinmcc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noe..gr
Many thanks.Although I think there's something wrong.That "het snow"....... Doesn't matter.
It's just combined them ... thats all. Obviously, het snow means het amel and het anery A.

 
Old 01-18-2006, 03:50 PM   #6
Noe..gr
Hm!!I understand the combination.I don't understand where is the anery A gene in the two snakes.Opal is amel X lavender,pewter anery B X bloodred.So??
 
Old 01-18-2006, 03:59 PM   #7
Roy Munson
Here's what Mick's Cornsnake Progeny Predictor gives me for the results from breeding a pair of Normals het for amel, lavender, charcoal, and bloodred:

Male is, Het for Blizzard, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
Female is, Het for Blizzard, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern

Offspring are predicted to be...
6.25%, Het for Blizzard, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
3.13%, Het for Blizzard, Het for Lavender
3.13%, Het for Blizzard, Het for Bloodred Pattern
3.13%, Het for Opal, Het for Bloodred Pattern
3.13%, Het for Pewter*, Het for Lavender
3.13%, Amelanistic, Het for Pewter*, Het for Lavender
3.13%, Charcoal, Het for Opal, Het for Bloodred Pattern
3.13%, Lavender, Het for Blizzard, Het for Bloodred Pattern
3.13%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Blizzard, Het for Lavender
1.56%, Lavender, Het for Blizzard
1.56%, Charcoal, Het for Opal
1.56%, Charcoal, Het for Amel, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Opal, Het for Pewter*
1.56%, Amelanistic, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Amelanistic, Het for Charcoal, Het for Lavender
1.56%, Lavender, Het for Amel, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Charcoal, Lavender, Het for Amel, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Blizzard, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Charcoal, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Lavender, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Blizzard
1.56%, Het for Amel, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
1.56%, Het for Pewter*
1.56%, Amelanistic, Het for Pewter*
1.56%, Lavender, Het for Pewter*
1.56%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Opal
1.56%, Pewter*, Het for Opal
1.56%, Amelanistic, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Charcoal, Het for Lavender
1.56%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Charcoal, Het for Lavender
1.56%, Het for Blizzard
1.56%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Blizzard
1.56%, Het for Charcoal, Het for Lavender
1.56%, Het for Opal
0.78%, Charcoal, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Het for Amel
0.78%, Amelanistic, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Opal, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Charcoal, Lavender, Het for Amel
0.78%, Blizzard, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Amelanistic, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Pewter*, Lavender, Het for Amel
0.78%, Amelanistic, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Charcoal, Het for Amel
0.78%, Lavender, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Lavender, Het for Amel
0.78%, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Blizzard, Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Pewter*, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Amelanistic, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Pewter*, Het for Amel
0.78%, Amelanistic, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Charcoal, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Amel
0.78%, Blizzard, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Charcoal, Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Lavender, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Amel
0.78%, Opal, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
0.78%, Lavender, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Charcoal
0.78%, Blizzard, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Lavender
0.78%, Opal, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Charcoal
0.39%, Pewter*
0.39%, Pewter*, Lavender
0.39%, Amelanistic
0.39%, Lavender, Bloodred Pattern
0.39%, Charcoal
0.39%, Blizzard, Bloodred Pattern
0.39%, Bloodred Pattern
0.39%, Normal
0.39%, Opal
0.39%, Blizzard, Lavender, Bloodred Pattern
0.39%, Blizzard, Lavender
0.39%, Amelanistic, Bloodred Pattern
0.39%, Charcoal, Lavender
0.39%, Opal, Bloodred Pattern
0.39%, Lavender
0.39%, Blizzard
 
Old 01-18-2006, 04:00 PM   #8
PtDnsr
Ok, Dean beat me to it...that's more what the results I got look like.

~Katie
 
Old 01-18-2006, 04:04 PM   #9
DaemoNox
I'm trying to figure out how when breeding an opal to a pewter you will get 50% hets, and also where did the anery A appear?

From my calculations, when those two breed together you will get all normals 100% het for amel, lavender, charcoal, and bloodred.

When breeding the hatchlings together you have the chance of getting normals (possible hets), amels, charcoals, lavenders, bloodreds, blizzards, opals,, amelbloods, charcoal lavenders, pewters, bloodredlavs, blizzards lavs, blizzardbloods, opal bloods, and the very rare chance of getting a snake with all 4 of those traits.
 
Old 01-18-2006, 04:06 PM   #10
DaemoNox
Or more specificly:

1/3 normal
1/9 Amel
1/9 Charcoal
1/28 Blizzard
1/9 Lavender
1/28 Opal
1/28 Charcoal, Lavender
1/85 Blizzard, Lavender
1/9 Bloodred
1/28 Amel, Bloodred
1/28 Pewter
1/85 Blizzard, Bloodred
1/28 Lavender, Bloodred
1/85 Opal, Bloodred
1/85 Pewter, Lavender
1/256 Blizzard, Lavender, Bloodred


With each of the hatchlings having a 66% chance of being het for whatever morph/s they arnt.
 

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