mmmhm I don't think it's wrong when you just want "pure" corns in your stock, that doesn't mean anybody HAS TO keep just pure corns. I don't know why the thread opener gets so much mocking comments - even from moderators.
I DO think it's wrong and unfair not to label ultras and nonultra byproducts as "hybrids" or "maybe hybrids". Most breeders in the US doesn't seem to care much about that - at least that's what I've read mostly. It's not right to do that since other breeders, who have the same right to have their personal attitude towards that topic like the "I don't care and I don't believe the hybrid thing-breeders", have other motives. Anybody has his own personal motives for the hobby, obviously these motives are dissimilar in the corn snake world, but I think it's a cheek just to debate that topic from such a subjective view...
I do know that ultra ship sailed a long time ago and it's impossible to delete these breeds of the hobby.
I do know much corns aren't technically pure in the wild, so are the pet corns.
But heck, I DO WANT to have the possibility to choose between "maybe hybrid" corns and probably pure corns when I buy a corn!!
It doesn't matter if it's a king cross or something like creamsicle, ultra or similar stuff. Maybe the breeders with this attitude are in a minority, but I really don't think that makes it correct when somebody sells corns from creamsicle, ultra, whatever lineage and doesn't label them as what they are.
I personally do want to keep "pure" corns. That's the reason why I never bought any ultra related corns. neither years ago when they were firstly introduced, nor today. I just want to keep corns with the highest amount of pureness. That is important to me. Much breeders think different - hooray for your tolerance, but please don't forget to be tolerant to the breeders who have a different way of seeing.
Maybe it's the language barrier but I don't see a reason why the thread opener is treaten in such a way.