SnakeSmithS
SnakeSmithS
I'm curious if anyone can provide some info on "Leopard" Motleys... where the line originated, experiences with reproducing that look, etc... Thanks 
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Let's talk about Leopard!
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SnakeSmithS
SnakeSmithS
I'm hoping several people can expand a bit on what info is available here: https://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147058.
Shiari
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The extent of what I know is that someone 'local' to where I am was breeding these motleys and would wholesale the non-keepers to local pet stores and other people, which is why there was one year when like... 3 or 4 people showed up here asking "what's my morph" and they were leopard mots.
Leopard patterning has shown up in motley clutches that do not come from this lineage. Notably, a friend hatched out a baby with a section of leopard from a clutch that produced both pinstripe AND banded snakes, leading to my current pet hypothesis that it is simultaneous expression of those two presentations of motley.
I am pairing my anery leopard motley to my ultramel charcoal motley next year. She has neither banding nor pinstripe, so I do not know how the pattern will be affected, but the entire clutch should be a mix of normal and anery motleys het charcoal and het amel OR ultra.
I got my leopard from a guy who bought him at a local shop but was moving to australia and couldn't take his snake with him. Imagine my shock/glee when I saw I was getting a very high quality (but also very fat) leopard motley for free.
Leopard patterning has shown up in motley clutches that do not come from this lineage. Notably, a friend hatched out a baby with a section of leopard from a clutch that produced both pinstripe AND banded snakes, leading to my current pet hypothesis that it is simultaneous expression of those two presentations of motley.
I am pairing my anery leopard motley to my ultramel charcoal motley next year. She has neither banding nor pinstripe, so I do not know how the pattern will be affected, but the entire clutch should be a mix of normal and anery motleys het charcoal and het amel OR ultra.
I got my leopard from a guy who bought him at a local shop but was moving to australia and couldn't take his snake with him. Imagine my shock/glee when I saw I was getting a very high quality (but also very fat) leopard motley for free.
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Thanks Shiari . I'm curious if any one has any thoughts about whether there is much likelihood that Leopard might trace back to Steve Roylance, and the "Stillman Corn" (https://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82750&highlight=Stillman). The amount of variation I'm seeing, in the few Leopards I've seen photos of (admittedly a small sample size), might suggest otherwise, but supposedly the original Stillman Corn was tested against Motley, so perhaps it creeped in that way. IDK. I suppose if Leopard is popping up from time to time in unrelated lines then that would also argue against Stillman being an influence. I just really wish that Stillman look had been reproducible
. I'm curious if any one has any thoughts about whether there is much likelihood that Leopard might trace back to Steve Roylance, and the "Stillman Corn" (https://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82750&highlight=Stillman). The amount of variation I'm seeing, in the few Leopards I've seen photos of (admittedly a small sample size), might suggest otherwise, but supposedly the original Stillman Corn was tested against Motley, so perhaps it creeped in that way. IDK. I suppose if Leopard is popping up from time to time in unrelated lines then that would also argue against Stillman being an influence. I just really wish that Stillman look had been reproducible