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Old 02-27-2018, 08:30 PM   #1
GRIMJIM
Genes

Hi all.
I've been reading about genetics today. I'm half understanding it but it's rather confusing.
It got me wondering what genes my own snake could be carrying.
She is an anery, ‎ I know that her dad was an anery and I think her mum was an albino. But obviously I don't know what genes they were carrying either.
‎ I don't know if I would ever breed her in the future but I thought it would be interesting to put her against other morphs on the corn calculator but I don't understand it and obviously I don't know what genes she's carrying.
‎ I don't really know what I'm asking here to be honest, but any inputs appreciated.

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Old 02-27-2018, 10:14 PM   #2
Shiari
If the mom was an amel, then your snake is heterozygous for amelanism.

The most common hidden hets for a corn snake to carry are: hypo, amel, anery, or motley. To find out about any hidden genes, you'd have to test breed against a snake that is carrying those genes for sure.
 
Old 02-28-2018, 04:17 AM   #3
GRIMJIM
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If the mom was an amel, then your snake is heterozygous for amelanism.

The most common hidden hets for a corn snake to carry are: hypo, amel, anery, or motley. To find out about any hidden genes, you'd have to test breed against a snake that is carrying those genes for sure.
Ok thanks. So if for instance I bred her with a normal that was also het for amel, some of the hatchlings would be amel?

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Old 02-28-2018, 10:11 AM   #4
crackerhead
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Ok thanks. So if for instance I bred her with a normal that was also het for amel, some of the hatchlings would be amel?

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"Could possibly be Amel" is the more accurate outcome. Every egg has a 25% chance of being Amel. So in a clutch of 4 eggs you could get all Normals Het for Anery PH or Het Amel or anywhere from 1 to 4 Amels Het Anery.

Terri
 
Old 02-28-2018, 10:15 AM   #5
GRIMJIM
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"Could possibly be Amel" is the more accurate outcome. Every egg has a 25% chance of being Amel. So in a clutch of 4 eggs you could get all Normals Het for Anery PH or Het Amel or anywhere from 1 to 4 Amels Het Anery.

Terri
Ok. I think I'm getting it now. Cheers

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Old 02-28-2018, 10:50 AM   #6
Shiari
As an example, I bred an anery to a ghost. The ghost laid 15 eggs. Of those 15, a single snow popped out, showing both parents were actually het amel. In an ideal world I would have had 3 or 4 snows but real life has randomness and that's how I ended up with just 1.
 
Old 02-28-2018, 10:53 AM   #7
GRIMJIM
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As an example, I bred an anery to a ghost. The ghost laid 15 eggs. Of those 15, a single snow popped out, showing both parents were actually het amel. In an ideal world I would have had 3 or 4 snows but real life has randomness and that's how I ended up with just 1.
Oh ok. So het amel + het amel = ghost, not amel

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Old 02-28-2018, 10:54 AM   #8
GRIMJIM
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As an example, I bred an anery to a ghost. The ghost laid 15 eggs. Of those 15, a single snow popped out, showing both parents were actually het amel. In an ideal world I would have had 3 or 4 snows but real life has randomness and that's how I ended up with just 1.
Snow sorry not ghost

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Old 02-28-2018, 11:20 AM   #9
Dragonling
Snow is Anery + Amel. Let's back up here. Give this a read: http://cornguide.com/geneticspages.php?page=1
 
Old 02-28-2018, 10:36 PM   #10
Shiari
Sorry. Ghost is hypo+anery, and when bred to another anery based animal ALL the babies will be anery based. If you add amel (removes black pigment) to anery (removes red pigment) you end up with a snow (white snake because it lacks black and red).

The part that relates to you is that I bred a snake that was het amel to another snake that was het amel and out of 15 eggs only got one baby that was visually an amel which shows that the 25% truly is *per egg* rather than per the whole.
 

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